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The simple truth
RE: The simple truth
(February 18, 2014 at 3:48 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Think of it like a child, proudly bringing you a mud pie and telling you its a cake.

A more apt analogy would be a child taking a shit in the middle of the floor and then calling you wicked for getting upset over it.

I'm all for people being free to share their religious beliefs with others, but when you do it in such a tactless, self-righteous manner, you have no right to feel offended when you receive a crass response.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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(February 17, 2014 at 11:49 pm)Cinjin Wrote:
(February 17, 2014 at 11:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Well, you're an atheist, aren't you? It's what we do. We're famous for it.

Admittedly I sorta miss being a christian once in a while. Killing people that disagree with me and feeling completely justified about it has got to be satisfying.

Tongue

Problem with that is that the Lord warned that many would claim they know Him but He says to them, "I never knew you." Having a label of Christian doesn't mean your a Christian.
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(February 18, 2014 at 9:28 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Problem with that is that the Lord warned that many would claim they know Him but He says to them, "I never knew you." Having a label of Christian doesn't mean your a Christian.

Given that only god knows who's a true christian and who isn't, it's not up to you to make those distinctions. Dodgy
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(February 18, 2014 at 9:42 am)Revelation777 Wrote: The greatest clue we get of a true believer is by the fruit they produce in their lives.

Around here it seems that the droppings they leave behind are a better clue.
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RE: The simple truth
(February 18, 2014 at 3:48 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I think y'all are being a little unkind. It's worth remembering that these guys are not trying to sell anything, they don't get anything for doing this. Think of it like a child, proudly bringing you a mud pie and telling you its a cake.

Of course you realize what will happen if you act all happy about getting the mud pie, don't you? The child will go make you another. Pretty soon we'll get all the little children on the internet bringing us mud pies. It may seem harsh but unless people really want to sift through piles of little Christian mud pies, it is probably better to call a plate full of shit what it really is.
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Quote: In fact I understand that I am a sinner and there is nothing righteous about me outside of Christ.


Yes - that is another repugnant aspect of your religion. It teaches people that they are innately worthless.

Quote:I need a Savior, I need to be saved, I was lost.

Then I'd suggest a life preserver and a compass.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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RE: The simple truth
(February 18, 2014 at 10:15 am)whateverist Wrote:
(February 18, 2014 at 3:48 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I think y'all are being a little unkind. It's worth remembering that these guys are not trying to sell anything, they don't get anything for doing this. Think of it like a child, proudly bringing you a mud pie and telling you its a cake.

Of course you realize what will happen if you act all happy about getting the mud pie, don't you? The child will go make you another. Pretty soon we'll get all the little children on the internet bringing us mud pies. It may seem harsh but unless people really want to sift through piles of little Christian mud pies, it is probably better to call a plate full of shit what it really is.

I can see a valid point there.

My concern is simply that the smack down dilutes the message. And whilst I know that Atheism is not a religion seeking converts, I do like to see Christians freed from the things which people have bolted onto the faith itself (like creationism, republicanism or anti scientism).

To take the matter at hand, the "people evolved from monkeys" thing. That's a nonsense spread by the uneducated to ridicule a model they don't understand. I'd like to see people question that. However if the explanation is pre or suffixed by "you fucking moron" (or variation) the explanation is more likely to be shrugged off as Atheists being hateful.

That's all. You fucking hateful ignorant brainwashed Atheists. Wink
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: The simple truth
(February 18, 2014 at 10:15 am)whateverist Wrote:
(February 18, 2014 at 3:48 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I think y'all are being a little unkind. It's worth remembering that these guys are not trying to sell anything, they don't get anything for doing this. Think of it like a child, proudly bringing you a mud pie and telling you its a cake.

Of course you realize what will happen if you act all happy about getting the mud pie, don't you? The child will go make you another. Pretty soon we'll get all the little children on the internet bringing us mud pies. It may seem harsh but unless people really want to sift through piles of little Christian mud pies, it is probably better to call a plate full of shit what it really is.

Those Christian forums have the better idea. Just block and ban rather than insult etc. To atheist forums it seems a major part of why they exist. Either that or people genuinely believe there's the chance someone will pop up with the answer.
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You may be right. Perhaps it would be better to specifically ban missionary work. Discussing religion is fine but I for one don't appreciate earnest appeals to join up in order to avoid the supernatural repercussions of my choices.
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