(March 19, 2014 at 4:10 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 4:03 am)psychoslice Wrote: It is up to you whatever you want to believe, and really that is all it comes down to.

True, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to believe in whatever you want and not get called out on it, especially when what you believe is fucking retarded.

Getting called out doesn't bother me, and childish names don't also.

(March 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 4:10 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: True, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to believe in whatever you want and not get called out on it, especially when what you believe is fucking retarded.

Getting called out doesn't bother me, and childish names don't also.

Go get em dude!

If it keeps to itself, and minds its own business so to speak, religion isn't an issue. It's when it wants to force itself into government laws, and the educational system, and so on ...that is when it becomes a BIG problem. And when that happens, it's never a fair balance of religious views anyway. It is always a Christian view point that seems to take over. (in the US)

So, I don't hate religion per se. I just think it needs to mind its business, and be a private thing people do with others who share the same mindset. Privately.

Also, churches and religious organizations shouldn't enjoy tax emempt status, either. So, if you preach nonsense, you don't have to pay taxes? When you don't think religion plays a role in government, think again.

(March 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: If it keeps to itself, and minds its own business so to speak, religion isn't an issue. It's when it want to force itself into government laws, and the educational system, and so on ...that is when it becomes a BIG problem. And when that happens, it's never a fair balance of religious views anyway. It is always a Christian view point that seems to take over.

So, I don't hate religion per se. I just think it needs to mind its business, and be a private thing people do with others who share the same mindset. Privately.

Also, churches and religious organizations shouldn't enjoy tax emempt status, either. So, if you preach nonsense, you don't have to pay taxes? When you don't think religion plays a role in government, think again.

No. Even as a private thing religion is like a virus. It affects it's host and host affects the world. Also it tends to spread from one host to another. It's contagious.

(March 19, 2014 at 6:02 pm)tor Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: If it keeps to itself, and minds its own business so to speak, religion isn't an issue. It's when it want to force itself into government laws, and the educational system, and so on ...that is when it becomes a BIG problem. And when that happens, it's never a fair balance of religious views anyway. It is always a Christian view point that seems to take over.

So, I don't hate religion per se. I just think it needs to mind its business, and be a private thing people do with others who share the same mindset. Privately.

Also, churches and religious organizations shouldn't enjoy tax emempt status, either. So, if you preach nonsense, you don't have to pay taxes? When you don't think religion plays a role in government, think again.

No. Even as a private thing religion is like a virus. It affects it's host and host affects the world. Also it tends to spread from one host to another. It's contagious.

True, but we aren't the thought police. lol People have a 'right' to think as they wish. Even if it's nonsense.

They do but it has consequences. Which is why we have debates.

They've ruined everything they've touched.. they've ruined freedom. PERIOD.

(March 19, 2014 at 6:08 pm)heathendegenerate Wrote: if heaven exists through deism, i sure as hell hope religious people don't get in. They've ruined everything they've touched.. they've ruined freedom, they've ruined justice, and their stupidity has devoured a vast amount of potential scientific growth. It's fucking retarded, every bit of it! This earth might just be the planet of the idiots(paraphrasing(poorly) carl sagan).

(March 19, 2014 at 6:07 pm)tor Wrote: They do but it has consequences. Which is why we have debates.

haha that comment made me laugh. I suppose.

(March 19, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:07 pm)tor Wrote: They do but it has consequences. Which is why we have debates.

haha that comment made me laugh. I suppose.

Btw the religion is in fact thought police. It has thought crimes in it like blasphemy and lust which are threatened with eternal punishment.
Basically religion makes people control their own thoughts to go in accord with the religion. How can I possibly police their mind? Am I gonna threaten them with punishment or surgically remove religion from their brains? Of course not. All I can do is have a conversation.