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RE: Well that's fitting .. total-dick xtians helping to eradicate religious belief.
March 26, 2014 at 9:12 am
Extremists will always push people away, due to their extremism. Depending on which group is larger, between extremists and moderates, either the moderates will leave, or the extremists will start a splinter group. That's why we have tens of thousands of denominations of christianity. The republican party is getting so entrenched that eventually it will fade out.
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RE: Well that's fitting .. total-dick xtians helping to eradicate religious belief.
March 26, 2014 at 9:58 am
Hmmm...nowhere in that article did they point to anything that says that the rise of the religious right was an actual factor in the decline of religion. They've just noted that the two happened in close proximity to each other.
I understand their sentiment and agree that it was likely an influence, but this is all just speculation.
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RE: Well that's fitting .. total-dick xtians helping to eradicate religious belief.
March 26, 2014 at 10:37 am
(March 26, 2014 at 10:22 am)whateverist Wrote: (March 26, 2014 at 9:58 am)Faith No More Wrote: Hmmm...nowhere in that article did they point to anything that says that the rise of the religious right was an actual factor in the decline of religion.
Unless you count its title:
Quote:Christian Right Has Major Role in Hastening Decline of Religion in America
And that's my point. They're simply asserting it to be true without anything to back it up.
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RE: Well that's fitting .. total-dick xtians helping to eradicate religious belief.
March 26, 2014 at 12:38 pm
I've often said that our efforts to promote skepticism pale beside the results fundamentalist evangelicals get.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Well that's fitting .. total-dick xtians helping to eradicate religious belief.
March 26, 2014 at 12:59 pm
Yeah, I'm thinking that they're having a relatively small effect on the overall growth of non-belief. The shit they peddle as "truth" should get most of the credit. If someone offers me a shit sandwich, I don't turn it down because I thought he was being too pushy.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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