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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 9:32 am
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(April 29, 2014 at 9:23 pm)Walker_Lee Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFzc9-Um5o
They already do.
The UK General Synod have paved the way for women bishops later this year.
General Synod Pave Way for Women Bishops
I have no problem with anyone who chooses to practice any religion, as long as they don't force their ideology on me.
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 9:39 am
(April 30, 2014 at 1:11 am)whateverist Wrote: No one needs to preach.
And no-one needs to listen to it. That's the bit they don't seem to get.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 9:45 am
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(April 30, 2014 at 9:32 am)ManMachine Wrote: I have no problem with anyone who chooses to practice any religion, as long as they don't force their ideology on me.
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One does not preach in order to not force his, or her, ideology on someone else.
Preaching is intrinsically a morally coercive act, limited only by how much the preacher thinks he, or she, can get away with under the circumstances.
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 10:09 am
(April 30, 2014 at 9:45 am)Chuck Wrote: (April 30, 2014 at 9:32 am)ManMachine Wrote: I have no problem with anyone who chooses to practice any religion, as long as they don't force their ideology on me.
MM
One does not preach in order to not force his, or her, ideology on someone else.
Preaching is intrinsically a morally coercive act, limited only by how much the preacher thinks he, or she, can get away with under the circumstances.
I am not sure I agree with how you define preaching but I wasn't suggesting preaching involves forcing religion on anyone.
What I did say is up there for you to see.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 10:23 am
Women should most def not be allowed to preach as it impacts my need for them to provide sammitch makin' and sexy time!
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 10:31 am
(April 30, 2014 at 10:23 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: Women should most def not be allowed to preach as it impacts my need for them to provide sammitch makin' and sexy time!
You'd think they'd be too busy tending to the house and kids, and making sure her man is content when he gets home to go out and preach or hold a job. Some people's priorities are skewed.
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 10:57 am
I have w woman neighbor that does all the cleaning, cooking, primarily takes care of their child, goes to school full time and has a job that coovers all of rent and utilities. Her man works a job making the same amount of money, but helps with nothing else because he's the man. Hell come home with a new gaming system, computer, car and makes all the terrible finacial decisions that keep them in debt. He also came home and got her pregnantwith their second child, after a night in the bar. All of these choices are ones he decides without talking to his wife. All in alll, she is taking care of this family 85% of the way. She might bitch and complain that he is still a kid, but because of her church upbringing she finds all of this beyond her power. He is the man and she is the weaker sex. The sex holding their family together, because her husband is is stuck being an unresponsible kid, is not allowed to make any important decision. Wth is up with that? Makes me cringe.
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 11:09 am
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It does not only sound sexist, it is sexist.
It is sure very convenient for some men that a woman can't teach over them, whether it is in a religious context or not.
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 11:34 am
(April 30, 2014 at 10:31 am)Chad32 Wrote: You'd think they'd be too busy tending to the house and kids, and making sure her man is content when he gets home to go out and preach or hold a job. Some people's priorities are skewed.
Exactly.
That and fact scientists in Kazakhstan have proven woman's brain is fraction size of man's! Close to size of squirrel! Sorry, but this SCIENCE!
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RE: Should women preach?
April 30, 2014 at 11:42 am
(April 29, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Stimbo Wrote: According the the Big Book Of Multiple Choice (aka the bible), apparently not.
The real question is: should anyone preach? And as a rider: why would they want to? Actually the Big Book of Multiple Choice allows both yes and no.
In one of Paul's authentic letters (1 Corinthians) he speaks of women "prophesying" (preaching) in church, and the only condition he puts on it is that they wear a head covering.
In one of the letters forged in his name (1 Timothy) the author says that women should just shut up in church. Ask their husbands when they go home.
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