Posts: 5598
Threads: 112
Joined: July 16, 2012
Reputation:
74
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 9:46 pm by Ryantology.)
(May 8, 2014 at 9:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Do you truly believe you live your live according to that philosophy?
Your belief system is fundamentally predicated on the idea that you have to turn to Christ if you want to save your ass from turning on a spit in hell. This 'salvation' is, according to some of you, the entire reason there is a universe. So let's have some integrity and admit that Christianity is, at its heart, a naked expression of that self-interest philosophy. If it wasn't, Christian dogma would have no risk/reward balance. Or very many adherents.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:11 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 7:27 am)Hoopington Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 6:28 am)Godschild Wrote:
Why do you have such a desire to be subservient?
Lek's statement say's most all of what I feel. I also get to hear from the Creator of the universe, call me delusional if that's what pleases you, but I'll continue to know things you can't possibly conceive of unless you come to know your creator. One other thing, with a desire to serve the Creator of the universe how can I be anything but subservient, I have a more rational understanding of God, He's the boss not others.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 31196
Threads: 1386
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:12 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 10:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: call me delusional if that's what pleases you, but I'll continue to know things you can't possibly conceive of unless you come to know your creator.
Well, if you are delusional, what you know cannot possibly be relied upon as accurate.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 10:18 pm by Godscreated.)
(May 8, 2014 at 12:24 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 6:28 am)Godschild Wrote: You need to show that Christians are pets, your assumption is not humorous it's pathetic. We are children of God and will live with Him for eternity. The purpose God gives Christians, is to be part of His plan, to redeem those who desire to know God. God brings into our lives spiritual purpose that covers a huge variety of things to do and our accomplishments are spiritual. We do have to manage our lives in this world and God helps us through life as long as we will accept, we are not to be involved in worldly things that would take us from our spiritual endeavors with God. God gives us spiritual insight into life's purpose and guidance in living that life with purpose.
GC
Sounds like you look forward to being God's lapdog, licking him for all eternity and begging for treats.
I want be begging for mercy for all of eternity, I want be begging for relief from self inflicted torment either.
GC
(May 8, 2014 at 10:12 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 10:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: call me delusional if that's what pleases you, but I'll continue to know things you can't possibly conceive of unless you come to know your creator.
Well, if you are delusional, what you know cannot possibly be relied upon as accurate.
That little if word can get in the way of greater purpose and understanding, it also means if I'm right you're the one with grand delusions of being self made.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 30711
Threads: 204
Joined: July 19, 2011
Reputation:
141
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:21 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Lek Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Yeah, because changing beliefs to account for new information and observation is such a terrible thing.
That's a feature, not a bug.
It's okay. We just can't put our total trust in it because we can't be sure we're right.
"Total trust" is your gig, not mine.
Posts: 31196
Threads: 1386
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: That little if word can get in the way of greater purpose and understanding, it also means if I'm right you're the one with grand delusions of being self made.
GC
You are correct. It should have been since instead of if.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 1946
Threads: 17
Joined: February 6, 2014
Reputation:
18
Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 10:28 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 12:24 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Sounds like you look forward to being God's lapdog, licking him for all eternity and begging for treats.
(May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: I want be begging for mercy for all of eternity, I want be begging for relief from self inflicted torment either.
GC
Right: so by your own admission, begging like a puppy for scraps for the dinner table.
(May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='Kitanetos' pid='666916' dateline='1399601578']
Well, if you are delusional, what you know cannot possibly be relied upon as accurate.
That little if word can get in the way of greater purpose and understanding, it also means if I'm right you're the one with grand delusions of being self made.
GC
That makes absolutely no sense at all. How did we get from grand delusions of being made in the image of a creator deity to being self-made?
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 2:26 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm using it because I mean it. If you live only to serve yourself, then you don't have any desire to help others in a way that would cause yourself to suffer. I see self-serving people as being selfish people. The fact that we might do something for ourselves doesn't make us self-serving, but it's when that becomes the focus of our lives. The focus of a christian's life is serving God and, in following his teachings we also serve others. Loving God also means loving others.
What makes you think that you don't only serve yourself? Your entire life revolves around how you appear in your god's eyes so you can look like a holy servant. Your life is just as self-serving as anyone else's, because every action you take is to craft a self-image.
This is where you fail to know and understand God, we understand He already knows and we understand we can't hide anything from Him. So we do not need to try and put up a false front for God, it would do no good. In actuality we as Christians are to allow Jesus to make us who we need to be for Him and others, our self importance is to be put aside for the good of all.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 2921
Threads: 26
Joined: June 25, 2013
Reputation:
41
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 10:36 pm by Bad Writer.)
(May 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: In actuality we as Christians are to allow Jesus to make us who we need to be for Him and others, our self importance is to be put aside for the good of all.
GC
Your zealous nature exacerbates your self-importance. It is anything but "put aside", and it is not "for the good of all" (a saying that truly proves you have a serious air of self-importance).
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 8, 2014 at 10:36 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Right: so by your own admission, begging like a puppy for scraps for the dinner table.
That little if word can get in the way of greater purpose and understanding, it also means if I'm right you're the one with grand delusions of being self made.
GC
That makes absolutely no sense at all. How did we get from grand delusions of being made in the image of a creator deity to being self-made?
See you do not understand, most Christians do not have the grand delusion of being self made, we understand that like the potter with his clay, we are molded over time into what God desires us to be and when we understand what He's doing we see that His plan is much greater than the one we had.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
|
![[Image: 10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg]](https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg)
