(May 8, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: See you do not understand, most Christians do not have the grand delusion of being self made, we understand that like the potter with his clay, we are molded over time into what God desires us to be and when we understand what He's doing we see that His plan is much greater than the one we had.

GC

(May 8, 2014 at 10:35 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(May 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: In actuality we as Christians are to allow Jesus to make us who we need to be for Him and others, our self importance is to be put aside for the good of all.

GC

Your zealous nature exacerbates your self-importance. It is anything but "put aside", and it is not "for the good of all" (which is actually a phrase that proves you have a serious air of self-importance).

Wrong, we are changed for God's work not our's and what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are, only one who believes thy are self important.

GC

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(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(May 8, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: See you do not understand, most Christians do not have the grand delusion of being self made, we understand that like the potter with his clay, we are molded over time into what God desires us to be and when we understand what He's doing we see that His plan is much greater than the one we had.

GC

They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment.

GC

(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are,

The kind who understand that what the other person believes is not based on reality. Would you not rather escape the lies that tether you to a comforting fantasy?

(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(May 8, 2014 at 10:35 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Your zealous nature exacerbates your self-importance. It is anything but "put aside", and it is not "for the good of all" (which is actually a phrase that proves you have a serious air of self-importance).

Wrong, we are changed for God's work not our's and what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are, only one who believes thy are self important.

GC

Me interpreting what you think based on what you write is only evidence of me interpreting what you think based on what you write. How does that play into my own sense of self-importance?

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(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment.

GC

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I can play this game all day. Your god's "plan" is only ever going to look like a piece of shit to those who have a shred of empathy for others.

(May 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: That little if word can get in the way of greater purpose and understanding, it also means if I'm right you're the one with grand delusions of being self made.

GC

You are correct. It should have been since instead of if.

The word since has two sides and since I'm right it means you are the one with grand delusions. We could keep doing this but nothing will come from it other than, you said, I said.

GC

Simply asserting that you are "right", GC, is extreme arrogance and a baseless assertion. You want to back up your claim with some evidence?

(May 8, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, we are changed for God's work not our's and what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are, only one who believes thy are self important.

GC

Me interpreting what you think based on what you write is only evidence of me interpreting what you think based on what you write. How does that play into my own sense of self-importance?

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(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment.

GC

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I can play this game all day. Your god's "plan" is only ever going to look like a piece of shit to those who have a shred of empathy for others.

God doesn't give children cancer, He will use the misfortune of someone to help them see Him in the true light of His love, something I hope you might discover one day. Hopefully it want happen because you fall upon misfortune.

GC

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(May 8, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Simply asserting that you are "right", GC, is extreme arrogance and a baseless assertion. You want to back up your claim with some evidence?

You are very lame in the head we were bantering words, please try and keep up.

GC

Misfortune that's all a part of "God's plan"? Also, I feel myself to be a very fortunate individual, but I don't pray to any god to thank for such fortune while he presumably allows millions others to suffer in the extreme.

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"Try and keep up"? Hehe, now you're projecting. You're quite the class act, GC.

(May 8, 2014 at 9:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Do you truly believe you live your live according to that philosophy?

Do you mean the philosophy that we are slaves to our neurochemical desires? That's not a philosophy. That's neuroscience.

(May 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: This is where you fail to know and understand God, we understand He already knows and we understand we can't hide anything from Him. So we do not need to try and put up a false front for God, it would do no good. In actuality we as Christians are to allow Jesus to make us who we need to be for Him and others, our self importance is to be put aside for the good of all.

No, this is where you fail to know and understand science(and the point I was making).

Every time you get the warm fuzzies from doing what you think Jesus wants for you, your brain is getting "high" on neurotransmitters. The pleasure you get from being a good little sheep is a neuro-chemical reward, and without it, pleasing Jesus would mean nothing to you. Your pious charade is nothing more than a self-serving attempt to stimulate the pleasure centers of your brain.