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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
Presume? You are a Young Earther that also happens to be Baptist, correct? Does that mean you believe in the god of the Bible and believe in salvation through himself...erm...his son Jesus Christ? I don't simply presume in this case, as you can see. Calling me arrogant is an exercise in futility, as it doesn't change a thing about my argument (ad homs rarely do).
GC Wrote:Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
Wait. Just wait. You know the mind of your god?
So you claim to know this god's plan, and yet you also seem to think that the mind of an omniscient god is something special. How can a normal person (such as I) not know the mind of this god, yet find out what his/her plan is? How do you?
And I still don't even know how you jump to these conclusions before demonstrating the existence of this god. Are we supposed to just take your word for it that he/she/it exists? If so, then if I told you that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from ancient golden plates that were taken to heaven by an angel, would you believe me?
Also...can you answer these questions truthfully without dodging? (Don't just answer them to yourself in your head; answer us too.)
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:30 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 3:00 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, we are changed for God's work not our's and what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are, only one who believes thy are self important.
GC
They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment.
GC
Except that your
Is full of holes, and you don't seem to give a shit about the torment anyone is suffering in the here and now, are ignoring it by telling more fairytales, and threatening anyone who DOES show empathy for people suffering RIGHT NOW with eternal damnation.
You don't care if other people suffer, stop pretending you do, and stop making threats by proxy. No one believes the invisible sky man is coming to beat them up but you.
God created me to help those who suffer and are in need, you have no idea what kind of work I do for God, so quit lying before your peers. I have threatened no one here truth is not a threat, but you can't see that because reality escapes you completely.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:32 pm
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(May 9, 2014 at 11:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No, this is where you fail to know and understand science(and the point I was making).
Every time you get the warm fuzzies from doing what you think Jesus wants for you, your brain is getting "high" on neurotransmitters. The pleasure you get from being a good little sheep is a neuro-chemical reward, and without it, pleasing Jesus would mean nothing to you. Your pious charade is nothing more than a self-serving attempt to stimulate the pleasure centers of your brain.
That's only an opinion, why, because sometimes working for God brings on suffering and hardship for the physical body, so your fuzzy just went up in smoke.
GC
You seem to have completely missed the point of the post you were responding to, please read it again more carefully.
(May 9, 2014 at 11:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 3:00 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Except that your
Is full of holes, and you don't seem to give a shit about the torment anyone is suffering in the here and now, are ignoring it by telling more fairytales, and threatening anyone who DOES show empathy for people suffering RIGHT NOW with eternal damnation.
You don't care if other people suffer, stop pretending you do, and stop making threats by proxy. No one believes the invisible sky man is coming to beat them up but you.
God created me to help those who suffer and are in need, you have no idea what kind of work I do for God, so quit lying before your peers. I have threatened no one here truth is not a threat, but you can't see that because reality escapes you completely.
GC
You can either support your assertions with facts, or you can stop blowing smoke.
Don't invoke your imaginary friend to lecture is on reality. Thanks.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:35 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 9:30 am)Tonus Wrote: (May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment. But that implies that you believe that it's better to die as a young child (earning a guaranteed spot in heaven with god) than to grow up and live out your life (and risk hell). Doesn't that imply that it's the Christian who sees this life as worthless or futile, and not the atheist?
Christians cherish this life, it's given us to do God's work and when small children lose their earthly life because of God's plan He rewards them with a life you can't imagine. What have you got against God taking the innocent to heaven, isn't that just and right.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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May 9, 2014 at 11:35 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
Presume? You are a Young Earther that also happens to be Baptist, correct? Does that mean you believe in the god of the Bible and believe in salvation through himself...erm...his son Jesus Christ? I don't simply presume in this case, as you can see. Calling me arrogant is an exercise in futility, as it doesn't change a thing about my argument (ad homs rarely do).
GC Wrote:Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
Wait. Just wait. You know the mind of your god?
So you claim to know this god's plan, and yet you also seem to think that the mind of an omniscient god is something special. How can a normal person (such as I) not know the mind of this god, yet find out what his/her plan is? How do you?
And I still don't even know how you jump to these conclusions before demonstrating the existence of this god. Are we supposed to just take your word for it that he/she/it exists? If so, then if I told you that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from ancient golden plates that were taken to heaven by an angel, would you believe me?
Also...can you answer these questions truthfully without dodging? (Don't just answer them to yourself in your head; answer us too.)
GC claims to know the mind of God? I thought that was blaspheme?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:36 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 11:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: you can't see that because reality escapes you completely.
GC
Your so-called understanding of reality is having faith in something that cannot be proven to exist. That is the furthest thing from reality. Fantasy is a child believing in Santa Clause, even though adults know Santa Clause does not exist. Theists like you have not fully grown up, because you have not given up on the fantasy that your sky daddy exists.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 11:23 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:
The extent of your delusion truly is astounding.
I have no delusion, I know the God of creation is as real as you are.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm
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(May 9, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: What have you got against God taking the innocent to heaven, isn't that just and right.
GC
What have you against your god actually allowing those innocents to live their lives?
(May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: I have no delusion, I know the God of creation is as real as you are.
GC
False, you know nothing of the sort. You merely have deluded yourself into thinking your god is real because you prefer the comfortable lie of religion over the harsh truth of reality that no god exists.
If your god could be proven to exist, we would not be having this conversation, because it is apparent that simply believing for the sake of believing is not proof of anything except deluding one's self that it exists.
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Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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(May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 11:23 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: The extent of your delusion truly is astounding.
I have no delusion, I know the God of creation is as real as you are.
GC
Your irrational beliefs, no matter how strongly held, are evidence of nothing but your own irrationality.
Muslims, Hindus, Jews, folk Buddhists, Sikas, Mormons, and Jehovah's Witnesses can make the same assertion; what makes yours any different?
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 9, 2014 at 11:46 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: I have no delusion, I know the God of creation is as real as you are.
Cool story, bro. So you should be able to introduce him to us, right? Remember, if you hear voices in your head, you're a schizophrenic, but if those voices happen to be "god", then you're a Christian.
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