Huh...
No where in that article was the phrase "life suffocating atmosphere" found

(May 29, 2014 at 12:14 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(May 26, 2014 at 9:46 am)Chas Wrote: What exactly do you mean by "the right combination"?

events and timing. here's one, 'the big whack' without out it earth would have continued to have a life-suffocating atmosphere.
http://www.space.com/23031-moon-origin-i...phere.html

The story of this planets capacity to support life reads like The Perils of Pauline. Our heroine, life, faces many calamities leading to our times if you read Lovejoy's "Gaia". Most think Pauline is in peril again owing to our determination to set loose all the carbon which natural systems have managed to sequester for so long. If one studies the mechanisms involved, they all look natural enough. Lovejoy's hypothesis is that the planet as a whole is as complex as any organism and so it help to understand its systems as those of a creature inclined toward survival. But that sure looks more like evolution to me that it does design.

If a god had created the planet, you might expect a more steady state life zone. But the real reason it doesn't make sense to look for a genie as manufacturing life as we know it, is that we would then have to turn our attention to the genies themselves. How did they evolve, or did they too have a creator?

(May 29, 2014 at 9:53 am)whateverist Wrote: If a god had created the planet, you might expect a more steady state life zone.

That's a good point.
And we don't even have to go as far back as the "big crunch" for that. Just go back a "mere" 80 million years, and you are walking on a totally alien planet. From the plant and animal life, to the atmosphere to the landscape to the continents themselves.

It's also safe to assume that the earth of 80 million years from now will also be totally unrecognizable to those of us today.

(May 29, 2014 at 12:14 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(May 26, 2014 at 9:46 am)Chas Wrote: What exactly do you mean by "the right combination"?

events and timing. here's one, 'the big whack' without out it earth would have continued to have a life-suffocating atmosphere.
http://www.space.com/23031-moon-origin-i...phere.html

You misunderstand me.

The right combination for what? Are you implying that the way it is was how it was meant to be?

(May 29, 2014 at 10:15 am)Chas Wrote: You misunderstand me.

The right combination for what? Are you implying that the way it is was how it was meant to be?

I'm guessing his answer is "yes".

(May 29, 2014 at 10:04 am)LostLocke Wrote:

(May 29, 2014 at 9:53 am)whateverist Wrote: If a god had created the planet, you might expect a more steady state life zone.

That's a good point.

Disagree...we wouldn't know what to expect from a god - nor could we expect any of life's constraints would shackle it. Perhaps it creates a universe utterly incapable of supporting life and then plops us here anyway - propped up by magic- of course.

(May 29, 2014 at 2:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote:

(May 29, 2014 at 10:04 am)LostLocke Wrote: That's a good point.

Disagree...we wouldn't know what to expect from a god - nor could we expect any of life's constraints would shackle it. Perhaps it creates a universe utterly incapable of supporting life and then plops us here anyway - propped up by magic- of course.

Agreed. The only thing I know about 'gods' is that I don't have the first clue what the hell we are talking about.

(May 22, 2014 at 6:44 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(May 22, 2014 at 2:49 am)snowtracks Wrote: nice try with the luck thing; but too many events that were spot on happened. when all added together, luck is not considered.

Your inability to let go of the argument from ignorance, and the argument from personal incredulity have been noted. Please do let us know when you're ready to form a real, cogent argument.

not exactly a cogent argument but an interesting story of how perceptions can change as time goes by.
"I suddenly stopped and looked out at the sea and thought, my God, how beautiful this is ... for 26 years I had never really looked at it before."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071693/posts

(May 30, 2014 at 1:04 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(May 22, 2014 at 6:44 am)Esquilax Wrote: Your inability to let go of the argument from ignorance, and the argument from personal incredulity have been noted. Please do let us know when you're ready to form a real, cogent argument.

not exactly a cogent argument but an interesting story of how perceptions can change as time goes by.
"I suddenly stopped and looked out at the sea and thought, my God, how beautiful this is ... for 26 years I had never really looked at it before."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071693/posts

You're right, that's not a cogent argument.

Also:

Quote:Nick said that he had long felt there was something possibly suspect about his father's version of his near death experience. "All this stuff about crossing the River Styx -- it just sounds too good to be true. There was three months between his time in hospital and when he decided to write the article in France. He never mentioned any of that business once. And I was with him all the time. I always thought it sounded more like a dream." According to Freddie's article, his first recorded words after he came round in hospital were to exclaim to the audience gathered around his bed:

1.NDEs
http://io9.com/a-new-scientific-explanat...1110395345
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science...-death.htm
explained: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23672150
2. If you're not changing religion to Greek Pantheon, this is nothing more than yet more

(May 30, 2014 at 1:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: not exactly a cogent argument but an interesting story of how perceptions can change as time goes by.
"I suddenly stopped and looked out at the sea and thought, my God, how beautiful this is ... for 26 years I had never really looked at it before."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071693/posts

What is this, that you're doing here? Why do you think someone being wrong about something would change my mind?