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Meat eating ethical?
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 RE: Meat eating ethical?
May 28, 2014 at 11:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2014 at 11:26 pm by Heywood.)
(May 28, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote:(May 28, 2014 at 4:26 pm)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote: The fact that they aren't humans nor pets. Like the Kanamits? Made us fat dumb and happy just before turning us into soup.  (May 28, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(May 28, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Lek Wrote: It's just part of the natural food chain. Animals eat other animals and we're no different in that respect. We're the only creatures that raise other animals in cages to be eaten probably because we're the only ones that have that ability. I do believe we have the responsibility to treat these animals ethically and not cause them undue suffering. Standards methods of slaughter are quick and painless compared to the deaths of most animals in the wild.  Just comes to show you that life's not black&white! I agree with you both, too.
I believe that the opposition might caution us against laying out a bare appeal to nature when discussing ethics. Besides, our system is far from natural....nature doesn't exactly have "good ideas"..yaknow.
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 (May 28, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: So, if a superior alien race came to earth, would it be ethical for them to eat us? A superior alien race is just as likely to consider human excrement a delicacy; in which case, they would likely help us improve our slaughtering efficiency. Giving a ration of shit would then become virtuous supporting the case that meat eating is ethical. 
I lean towards it being unethical to eat meat when there are sufficient alternatives to meet nutritional needs. The state of affairs where this is now the case in many places is fairly recent and we've not yet adapted to it. Cultured meat is likely the best way to speed up the process of switching from killing animals for food...it lets us have our meat and eat it too, so to speak.
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 RE: Meat eating ethical?
May 29, 2014 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2014 at 11:23 am by No_God.)
It's a part of nature. It's a part of life. I'm an omnivore, therefore, I'm going to kill to get the food that I need to survive.
I think it's really fucking funny that the vegans who are against GMO's and other modified foods are the first ones to tell people to eat processed bullshit meat alternatives. God damn that's ironic. (not all vegans, just the ones I know personally. I know not all vegans are sanctimonious) RE: Meat eating ethical?
May 29, 2014 at 11:34 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2014 at 11:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 29, 2014 at 11:08 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I lean towards it being unethical to eat meat when there are sufficient alternatives to meet nutritional needs. The state of affairs where this is now the case in many places is fairly recent and we've not yet adapted to it. Cultured meat is likely the best way to speed up the process of switching from killing animals for food...it lets us have our meat and eat it too, so to speak.Food isn't the only driving factor at present. Agricultural production requires an unbelievably large investment in inputs.....livestock meets needs far and beyond the desire for a juicy t-bone....or we could keep doing it the way we're doing it and kill a whole hell of alot more than livestock. Cultured products are a wonderful idea..but we're likely to have the animals "lying around" for other purposes anyway. Meat-as-useful byproduct.
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Why should we have to prove it's ethical or not? If you like to eat meat, do it. If you don't like to eat meat then don't.
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
And some people like meat, but don't like to cause suffering, so they have a bit of a dilemma. I compromise by (usually) sticking with poultry as the highest form of life I eat, but I often compromise that, too. I'm an omnivore, but that also means I don't HAVE to eat meat. I've got a little tickle in my brain telling me that me the taste of something doesn't alone justify killing it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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