(June 18, 2014 at 11:29 pm)KatiePrivett Wrote: One of my best friends is a christian, and we have discussions about it all the time. I have told him about the evidence for evolution, and the big bang. We have discussed the contradictions in the bible as well as the christian god having impossible characteristics. He is aware that I am right, but for some reason he just tells me to ask god why science is right, and the bible is fucked up. Why is he like this when he knows im right? How do I get him to stop believing that shit?

You can ask him if he believes that Jesus is God and then ask him where did Jesus say in the Bible "I am God" or "worship me". If he quotes John 10:30 he lost the debate.

Time to downgrade to "friend"....

(June 19, 2014 at 4:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: How come you in your ignorance want other people to be as ignorant as you?!

That's rich, coming from you.

(June 18, 2014 at 11:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: My best friend is a baptist.

We don't talk about religion. It helps a lot.

Wow. Wouldn't have guessed that one. I guess you haven't pointed him towards these forums, eh?

(June 20, 2014 at 4:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(June 20, 2014 at 11:22 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: The moment you said faith and knowledge cannot coexist with a strange sort of pride, I realized I am talking to a brick wall, aren't I?

My explanation was very simple, but if you think you explain how faith and knowledge can in fact "coexist", I'm all ears.

There are lots of examples of how faith and knowledge can in fact co-exist.
Example - the allied armies of WWII - where people of all faiths coexisted and
cooperated in a more important common cause.

And People in many large Multi- National companies - co-exist with others of other faiths - because the Job is more important than their religion - or it may be that religion is defined by the company as a non-issue to begin with.

But - in the end - you can have friends and co-exist with people of all different faiths -or non faiths - simply because you recognize that most people are not defined by their religion.

My grandmother had a saying - there are two type of people in the world - good ones - and bad ones - and you cannot tell just by looking at them which they are. I lived in a town where most of the people I lived near - were of another faith (They were Jewish - I was not) - and we got along because we learned that this didn't matter.

(June 25, 2014 at 9:18 pm)ThomM Wrote:

(June 20, 2014 at 4:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: My explanation was very simple, but if you think you explain how faith and knowledge can in fact "coexist", I'm all ears.

There are lots of examples of how faith and knowledge can in fact co-exist.
Example - the allied armies of WWII - where people of all faiths coexisted and
cooperated in a more important common cause.

And People in many large Multi- National companies - co-exist with others of other faiths - because the Job is more important than their religion - or it may be that religion is defined by the company as a non-issue to begin with.

But - in the end - you can have friends and co-exist with people of all different faiths -or non faiths - simply because you recognize that most people are not defined by their religion.

My grandmother had a saying - there are two type of people in the world - good ones - and bad ones - and you cannot tell just by looking at them which they are. I lived in a town where most of the people I lived near - were of another faith (They were Jewish - I was not) - and we got along because we learned that this didn't matter.

I don't believe you understand the discussion, read the example I posted about faith vs knowledge.

(June 18, 2014 at 11:29 pm)KatiePrivett Wrote: One of my best friends is a christian, and we have discussions about it all the time. I have told him about the evidence for evolution, and the big bang. We have discussed the contradictions in the bible as well as the christian god having impossible characteristics. He is aware that I am right, but for some reason he just tells me to ask god why science is right, and the bible is fucked up. Why is he like this when he knows im right? How do I get him to stop believing that shit?

I know your kind. You walk down the street, you are thinking about something.. you hear somewhere down the street "that's right", and you take that as answer to what you were thinking.

Realise you can do nothing on your own.