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Q about arguments for God's existence.
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 (June 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Why are they all so fucking illogical and idiotic? Moreover, why are so many people dumb enough to be "persuaded" by them? yep ... your are good for the cause to help some people to "grow up" or to "let go". Like a animal that sleeps in its own shit. or in this case, eats it. 
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June 25, 2014 at 10:35 am
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(June 25, 2014 at 4:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: OK. It's estimated that the United States of America is about 238 years old. If an observer was there 238 years ago looking out into the eastern seaboard would he have seen the same distant cities that we can see now, which some people say are -blah...blah....blah.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
So the Universe changes over time. Hey, just like everything else - stars, planets, trees, flowers, you, me - why would we expect the Universe itself to be any different?
We need circus music for this. Cue the hilariously misnamed “Entry of the Gladiators“.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 Q about arguments for God's existence.
June 25, 2014 at 11:41 am
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(June 21, 2014 at 1:06 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 21, 2014 at 12:43 pm)whateverist Wrote: Doesn't your other option generalize as "all religions have the potential to be as true for those who have not yet discovered them". Not a very important point imo. Do you believe in hell? I'm asking because unless you convert 100% of the theists you tell about jesus, you are actually sending people there who would have been in heaven if you would have just shut up. And what about muslims? They heard about your jesus, but think he was a prophet... Are they fucked by default?  RE: Q about arguments for God's existence.
June 25, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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(June 25, 2014 at 9:35 am)archangle Wrote:(June 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Why are they all so fucking illogical and idiotic? Moreover, why are so many people dumb enough to be "persuaded" by them? I'd expect you to insert your two cents of theological drivel but your brain probably isn't big enough to tie itself in knots.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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June 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm
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(June 24, 2014 at 7:39 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 7:46 pm)Lek Wrote: If 4 billion people on the planet claim to know Susan and they can't agree about what Susan is, I may not know exactly what she is, but I would definitely be convinced that she exists. Priceless. And what a great idea to do philosophy by poll taking.  RE: Q about arguments for God's existence.
June 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm
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(June 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm)whateverist Wrote:(June 24, 2014 at 7:39 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If the vast majority of people agreed that God is fictional, would you think that was a good argument that you should cease believing that God is real? Huh...usually you don't see too many Christians using argumentum ad populum so blatantly. 30 million smokers can't be wrong! (EDIT: Meant to get Lek's quote in there...but I fucked up)
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson (June 25, 2014 at 7:14 am)StuW Wrote:(June 25, 2014 at 4:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: OK. You're still missing the point. If the Milky Way Galaxy is 13.2 billion years old that means that it's about the same age of the Universe, according to a popular theory. Some people conclude that the Universe is 13.7 billion years old based on the speed of light from the most distant galaxies. So you have a paradox. If the farthest object is 13.7 billion years away and it's fully formed as a galaxy would you have been able to have seen it 13.2 billion years ago from the Milky Way? Remember, such objects are all around us so it's just not one object that we're talking about. Don't forget: there are countless galaxies between us and the farthest ones. So what do you think?  (June 25, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: You're still missing the point. If the Milky Way Galaxy is 13.2 billion years old that means that it's about the same age of the Universe, according to a popular theory. Some people conclude that the Universe is 13.7 billion years old based on the speed of light from the most distant galaxies. So you have a paradox. If the farthest object is 13.7 billion years away and it's fully formed as a galaxy would you have been able to have seen it 13.2 billion years ago from the Milky Way? Remember, such objects are all around us so it's just not one object that we're talking about. You're missing the point. The galaxy that now appears to be 13.7 billion years away, appears as it did 13.7 billion years ago from our frame of reference. It's actually been receding away from the milky way, and is now substantially farther away (on the order of 46+ billion light years). You're going to have to connect the dots, because whatever it is you're attempting to illustrate makes zero sense.
You'll have a better time convincing a fetus in a jar, Cthulhu. Wyrd of Gawd doesn't give weight to empirical facts.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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