(July 13, 2014 at 11:37 am)OceanWave Wrote:

(July 13, 2014 at 11:22 am)Blackout Wrote: You are either very dumb or refuse to read phrases fully... I will repeat it, common sense is not allowed in a rational debate. If you are saying your religion is the one because of common sense, then I could say the same about atheism... After all, isn't it common sense to lack belief in things that have never been proven?
Except that Islam is highly inferior to western values.

I think you are the one lacking common sense to not recognize His signs.
Holy Quran 14:52
"This [Qur'an] is notification for the people that they may be warned thereby and that they may know that He is but one God and that those of understanding will be reminded."

Holy Quran 27:93
"And say, "[All] praise is [due] to Allah . He will show you His signs, and you will recognize them. And your Lord is not unaware of what you do."


Based on your belief of relativity, I disagree with you about western believes and believe they are inferior. This is clear and obvious to those with understanding

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(July 13, 2014 at 11:26 am)Blackout Wrote: A minority. Since when does the exception dismisses the entire general rule? It doesn't, the general rule prevails, just because there are some abnormalities that doesn't make the general rule invalid. Serial killers often lack morals or empathy, they are psychopaths or sociopaths, you cannot talk about any morals, not absolute, relative or objective, if they lack any morals we can't consider them valid to the numbers. And suicide bombers? That looks like a typical muslim thing, so you're saying muslims are the ones going against absolute morality? And why do you consider murder wrong? B sides your religion... Why do you consider it wrong? Tell me.

There is no "general rule" for atheists. I'm sire another atheists wouldn't like you deciding on the "general rule" for them

(July 13, 2014 at 11:37 am)OceanWave Wrote:

(July 13, 2014 at 11:22 am)Blackout Wrote: You are either very dumb or refuse to read phrases fully... I will repeat it, common sense is not allowed in a rational debate. If you are saying your religion is the one because of common sense, then I could say the same about atheism... After all, isn't it common sense to lack belief in things that have never been proven?
Except that Islam is highly inferior to western values.

I think you are the one lacking common sense to not recognize His signs.
Holy Quran 14:52
"This [Qur'an] is notification for the people that they may be warned thereby and that they may know that He is but one God and that those of understanding will be reminded."

Holy Quran 27:93
"And say, "[All] praise is [due] to Allah . He will show you His signs, and you will recognize them. And your Lord is not unaware of what you do."


Based on your belief of relativity, I disagree with you about western believes and believe they are inferior. This is clear and obvious to those with understanding

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(July 13, 2014 at 11:26 am)Blackout Wrote: A minority. Since when does the exception dismisses the entire general rule? It doesn't, the general rule prevails, just because there are some abnormalities that doesn't make the general rule invalid. Serial killers often lack morals or empathy, they are psychopaths or sociopaths, you cannot talk about any morals, not absolute, relative or objective, if they lack any morals we can't consider them valid to the numbers. And suicide bombers? That looks like a typical muslim thing, so you're saying muslims are the ones going against absolute morality? And why do you consider murder wrong? B sides your religion... Why do you consider it wrong? Tell me.

There is no "general rule" for atheists. I'm sire another atheists wouldn't like you deciding on the "general rule" for them

(July 13, 2014 at 11:31 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 13, 2014 at 11:18 am)OceanWave Wrote: Thanks for making it clear I don't own you. I wanted to get this rational response of your cleared up. Thanks !

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You just proved atheists relativism once again again by stating you believe in a central minimum values. That's your belief, not everyone else's though.

You made this post just like Christians do, with a self centered attitude.

Your first on your list was "worship Allah only".

Fuck you. If you admit you do not own me then dont fucking talk like you do.

Quote:That's your belief, not everyone else's though.

Take your own advice dipshit.

(July 13, 2014 at 11:45 am)OceanWave Wrote:

(July 13, 2014 at 11:31 am)Brian37 Wrote: You made this post just like Christians do, with a self centered attitude.

Your first on your list was "worship Allah only".

Fuck you. If you admit you do not own me then dont fucking talk like you do.


Take your own advice dipshit.

Don't center on me. Center yourself only on Allah. The only one who can Help you

(July 13, 2014 at 11:41 am)OceanWave Wrote: You proved that you lack common sense here and failed to understood wha I wrote. The user believes in "central minimum values" Not everybody believes that, not every atheists does. That's a version of relativity as not everybody believes that. Hope you understand this now

(July 13, 2014 at 11:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: Crush my enemies? Boil me a pot of tea? Match my socks? Will he deal me a winning hand in a poker game? Vacuum my floors? Will he make my tomatoes grow bigger or juicier? Change the oil on my truck? Cut my grass?