(August 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: As the saying goes; There is no "i" in team.

No, but there is a "me" if you look hard enough.

(August 5, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(August 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: As the saying goes; There is no "i" in team.

No, but there is a "me" if you look hard enough.

You, sir, win the thread and a couple of internets.

(August 4, 2014 at 11:59 am)archangle Wrote: then we agree on all accounts. Most people are nice.

Not all counts. Most people are pretty self-absorbed; they rarely think about me.

Never mind, Chad; I promise I'll think of you. Tonight. In bed.

I will now need to lobotomize myself to rid my mind of the horrible image.

(August 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 4, 2014 at 8:36 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y

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Explain what one has to do with the other?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? The point is clear to anyone capable of a little critical thinking.

(August 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Everything must work according to scripture, for example; you may be familiar with a story in the Bible about a woman that was healed just by touching Jesus's robe.

Luke 8

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43 And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,
44 Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched.
45 And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?
46 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me.
47 And when the woman saw that she was not hid, she came trembling, and falling down before him, she declared unto him before all the people for what cause she had touched him, and how she was healed immediately.
48 And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.

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We see that after the woman touched him she was healed, not by him but by her faith, but it also had the effect of making him weak, since he stated that the virtue (strength) had left him.

So if Jesus was made weak by someone operating their faith through him, what would it do to a normal human? On the video of William Branham you hear him say that he gets weak. Here's another quote from him transcribed from an audio recording August 8, 1950.

Quote:They used to come through here, and people... They'd send me out there to be--let me pray for the sick. I'd get so weak I couldn't stand up. Then two men, one on one side, one on the other, would hold me there, let the people come by and lay their hands on me.

Here is a picture of him being held up because he's too weak to stand on his own

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So of course there are going to be "evangelists' imitating the real thing, but the fact that they feel no effects is totally contrary to the Bible.

So what you're telling me is that a guy who is coversant in the Bible, and has probably read Luke, reports the same symptoms as Jesus and you take that as evidence?

A simpler explanation comes to mind. We'll see if you're sharp enough to see it, or if you need me to explain it.

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(August 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: As the saying goes; There is no "i" in team.

... and then there's the part you're not quoting: "... but there are three "U"s in 'shut the fuck up'."

(August 5, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Explain what one has to do with the other?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? The point is clear to anyone capable of a little critical thinking.

Hows this for critical thought. If I were to see a video for instance of a police officer robbing a bank, you're saying I am to conclude that all police officers are criminals?

(August 5, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So what you're telling me is that a guy who is coversant in the Bible, and has probably read Luke, reports the same symptoms as Jesus and you take that as evidence?

No, but eyewitness testimony is accepted as evidence, would you like to see some?

Quote:Ok genius, The Bible refers the church as the "Body of Christ". The body is not an organization (hierarchy) is more of a team. As the saying goes; There is no "i" in team.

They can call it the asshole of christ for all I care. The church is about authority and warning people to stfu and do what they are told. Bart Ehrman has much to say on this subject. Try Jesus Interrupted and then move on to Forged...if you dare.

And there is an "i" in "shithead."

(August 5, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Hows this for critical thought. If I were to see a video for instance of a police officer robbing a bank, you're saying I am to conclude that all police officers are criminals?

This is an inapt comparison. Bank robberies are mundane things that do not require miracles. Faith healings, however, require miracles that are divorced from physical causes. Because of that, I am comfortable pointing out that faith healers have continually been dubunked (not just Christian faith-healers) and suggesting that a skeptical mindset would serve the thinking person better.

I can underestand your discomfort at my point, but your objection, being irrelevant, will be disregarded.

(August 5, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 5, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So what you're telling me is that a guy who is coversant in the Bible, and has probably read Luke, reports the same symptoms as Jesus and you take that as evidence?

No, but eyewitness testimony is accepted as evidence, would you like to see some?

As anyone who has taken Psychology 101 knows, eyewitness testimony is some of the least-reliable evidence around. Rather than that, I'd prefer to see medical records of the "healed", both before and after the alleged healing.

What you got for that?

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(August 5, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They can call it the asshole of christ for all I care.

They may rin into an intellectual-property suit from this guy; he's the One True Asshole of Christ: