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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:00 am
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If there was anything to take in to a lab I'd be there with it. But what part of a non material entity do you drag into a lab? And where do you get the tools to handle non material objects? Answer me that and perhaps we can progress in that direction.
I don't believe for comfort. Humans had to communicate the idea for humans, sure. Did they summons it out of fresh air or did they observe it? Did they theorise? Do you dismiss equally all other non provable ideas? Do you not have a process of choosing what might be fanciful and what is likely to be true? Is there a tipping point for you with ideas that you're forced to speculate on? If so, then those are the same processes involved here. Remove the illogical swerve balls like feelings and comfort, and you have rational choices.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:19 am
(September 10, 2014 at 8:00 am)fr0d0 Wrote: If there was anything to take in to a lab I'd be there with it. But what part of a non material entity do you drag into a lab? And where do you get the tools to handle non material objects? Answer me that and perhaps we can progress in that direction.
How can you demonstrate non material objects exist?
(September 10, 2014 at 8:00 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I don't believe for comfort. Humans had to communicate the idea for humans, sure. Did they summons it out of fresh air or did they observe it? Did they theorise?
A bunch of bronze age goat herders had no concept of observation or theories in the scientific sense. In other words here, you're saying: did they see something they couldn't explain and so came up with their own explanation.
(September 10, 2014 at 8:00 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Do you dismiss equally all other non provable ideas?
No, we reserve judgement, if you cannot demonstrate existence, then it is pointless believing in it.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:37 am
How can you demonstrate it indeed Wolfie. To me, that would be logically impossible. Brian and yourself seem to be saying that it is possible.
Have you ever been in love Wolfie? Do you have verifiable scientific fact to prove that? Is it still true then?
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:41 am
Really wish theists would stop comparing God to an observable and discrete group of chemical reactions in the brain.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:44 am
Wrong fatty. Love, if anything, is the comparison, not the mechanics.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 8:50 am
No idea what you're saying.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 9:31 am
The observable chemical reactions in the brain are not like God. You could feel love for God in the same way that you feel love for another person. You might be able to scientifically map the reaction. The reaction, however, is not love, or God. It's a reaction to them/ the feelings induced by thoughts of them.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 9:34 am
But that other person is demonstrably real
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 9:58 am
Love is the subject Wolfie
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 10, 2014 at 10:16 am
(September 10, 2014 at 9:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The observable chemical reactions in the brain are not like God. You could feel love for God in the same way that you feel love for another person. You might be able to scientifically map the reaction. The reaction, however, is not love, or God. It's a reaction to them/ the feelings induced by thoughts of them.
So love doesn't exist aside from being a concept that humans invented? Yep fine with that, same goes for your god
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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