RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2014 at 9:06 pm by ShaMan.)
Oh man I wish the conversation had commenced with this... 
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Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
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 (September 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Oh man I wish the conversation had commenced with this... If you're interested. Read this recently. I have to admit I'm lost trying to understand some of it (I'm not a physicist), but generally I found it very intriguing. http://pqdtopen.proquest.com/pqdtopen/do...tml?FMT=AI  (September 14, 2014 at 9:01 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: No. I see zero evidence, nor do I experience anything that would make me think life is some sort of video game that's already been played.
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PM me your email address to join the Slack chat! I'll give you a taco(or five) if you join! --->There's an app and everything!<--- Quote:No. I see zero evidence, nor do I experience anything that would make me think life is some sort of video game that's already been played. Can I ask if you looked at any of it? Have you considered the research and the potential implications? RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 14, 2014 at 8:51 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: My assumption would be that if life operates in such a way that it is similar to something that (in it's simplest forms) intelligent life (humans) has created here, than "intelligence" (or consciousness, I tend to think of it) could be actively involved with the design and operations of life as we know it.So, because we built an airplane, -someone- must have built an albatross, essentially?
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(September 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 8:51 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: My assumption would be that if life operates in such a way that it is similar to something that (in it's simplest forms) intelligent life (humans) has created here, than "intelligence" (or consciousness, I tend to think of it) could be actively involved with the design and operations of life as we know it.So, because we built an airplane, -someone- must have built an albatross, essentially? Well, it's more like the foundational principles of our reality could be similar to foundational principles of human simulated realities, wherefore our reality could be simulated. It's a bit different. Interesting article that describes the details. http://pqdtopen.proquest.com/pqdtopen/do...tml?FMT=AI  (September 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, because we built an airplane, -someone- must have built an albatross, essentially? Just to be difficult, if I were to play devil's advocate, I might say: the same underlying physical processes are responsible for both, aren't they?
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 14, 2014 at 10:20 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2014 at 10:22 pm by sswhateverlove.)
Quote:Just to be difficult, if I were to play devil's advocate, I might say: the same underlying physical processes are responsible for both, aren't they? So, again, if you were to look at what I'm referring to you would see that neutral monism refers to the "view that the mental and the physical are two ways of organizing or describing the same elements, which are themselves "neutral", that is, neither physical nor mental. This view denies that the mental and the physical are two fundamentally different things. Rather, neutral monism claims the universe consists of only one kind of stuff, in the form of neutral elements that are in themselves neither mental nor physical; these neutral elements might have the properties of color and shape, just as we experience those properties, but these shaped and colored elements do not exist in a mind (considered as a substantial entity, whether dualistically or physicalistically); they exist on their own." (September 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote:Quote:No. I see zero evidence, nor do I experience anything that would make me think life is some sort of video game that's already been played. I'll admit I haven't. Nor do I care to. It's not a testable or falsifiable hypothesis. It is merely a mildly interesting philosophical endeavor.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
PM me your email address to join the Slack chat! I'll give you a taco(or five) if you join! --->There's an app and everything!<--- (September 14, 2014 at 10:32 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: Can I ask if you looked at any of it? Have you considered the research and the potential implications? The information I am referring you to is describing critical inquiry into these areas and is detailing outcomes. Posts on the other threads I started also direct to areas of research with regard to these topics. If you are interested in responding to any of these threads, would you mind first reviewing the information I'm referring to? Thank you. |
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