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Christians. Could you be wrong?
RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
How is it cognitive dissonance?

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 23, 2014 at 12:43 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(September 22, 2014 at 4:53 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Bolding mine, and that, Carm, is a lie. It's a lie when you say you care if your beliefs are true, while simultaneously saying that nothing could ever convince you that you're wrong. I shouldn't have to explain why.

I don't really see how that is a lie, both are true. Nothing will stop me from believing and I care about my beliefs being true.

So you're a non-skeptical "skeptic" who doesn't understand basic logic. Got it. The Christians deserve you.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
When I say I care about my beliefs being true, I am really saying I caee about increasing my faith.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 23, 2014 at 12:47 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: How is it cognitive dissonance?

If you cared about whether your beliefs were true, you would gladly stop believing in something if it were shown undeserving of belief. But you've also stated that nothing could possibly sway your belief in God. Which means even if your belief in God was shown to be unjustified, you would still believe it, showing that you do not in fact care if your beliefs or true. OR, you would in fact stop believing in God, demonstrating that your second statement is false. Your two statements are mutually exclusive. And somehow you've convinced yourself that it's logical and makes sense and that you're being intellectually honest. Cognitive dissonance. Self-delusion.

(September 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: When I say I care about my beliefs being true, I am really saying I caee about increasing my faith.

There we go. So you don't care if your beliefs are true, you only care that they reinforce your predrawn conclusions. Utterly and completely intellectually dishonest.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
I do care about my beliefs being true as I still occasionally doubt, I don't like it when it happens but it does.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 23, 2014 at 12:54 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I do care about my beliefs being true

You can keep saying that as many times as you like, it doesn't make it true.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
How do you know what is and isn't true concerning my personal beliefs.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 23, 2014 at 1:02 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: How do you know what is and isn't true concerning my personal beliefs.

Because you've demonstrated that you don't give a shit about what's true, you will only believe what reinforces your faith.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
Because you've said that nothing will make you stop believing those things. That would have to include things such as those beliefs turning out to be untrue. Thus you will inevitably end up holding untrue beliefs, since you refuse to abandon them even if shown to be untrue. So when you say you care about whether your beliefs are true, you have to be lying (or to be a little more generous: incorrect).
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
Exactly because from my personal view I believe my faith to be true.

Any way, I haven't found any thing to disprove my beliefs.

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