(September 24, 2014 at 11:29 pm)whateverist Wrote: Welcome back!

I was completely moony when I got divorced from my first wife. Can't begin to tell you how happy I am about that now. If you survive you might even look back and thank your lucky stars.

^^This. As a friend of mine has said, the reason divorce is expensive is because it is worth it.

Plenty of fish in the sea; some quite delectable.

Welcome back! Depression is a rough ride.

(September 24, 2014 at 11:55 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: As a friend of mine has said, the reason divorce is expensive is because it is worth it.

Thanks guys, I am noticing how many people actually do care. I do not want peoples pity, however knowing how many do care is pretty interesting.

Life has been really hard, inside that place it really helped me gain a lot of perspective. Something I doubt I would have learned these lessons with out it. Depression can be fatal, I never want to be that close. I mean it was way to close.

Depression is truely terrible. I am glad you made it through. Now I can turn to you for advice if I ever encounter such a stage in my life. It's feels kind of reassuring now.

Feel free, there are others too. It is a tough road to follow. Know you are never alone

(September 24, 2014 at 6:37 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: WEll i was hit by my break up, money, My parents being sick and being in 25k debt because of it, work and my depression.

However, it was like prison really no individuality barely any help with mental issues. I got the most help by gaining perspective from other people. It was strange....

Well I hope you get those issues worked out. Depression can be caused by dietary imbalances, hormone imbalances (eg hypothyroidism), low cholesterol* (link) (cholesterol being the precursor to all hormones), and parasites such as roundworm** "Signs of psychiatric disease (depression and psychosis) were found in over 65% of neurocysticercosis cases" (link) and I suggest you consider all the possible causes and address each one systematically to be sure. I highly suggest a blood test, if you have not already had one, to test your cholesterol and hormone levels, and the thyroid.

Hopefully your GP has already told you this, but if not take charge of your health and immediately start ruling out the physiological causes. Your GP can advise you, and help especially by administering a blood test, if he finds something abnormal in it he can suggest a course of treatment. Most of the physiological causes of depression are quite easily treated. Good luck.

Try as many things as possible, do not believe that depression is incurable or that the causes I suggested do not apply to you until you've ruled them out. Depression has many clinically proven physiological causes. It is also possible that more than one cause combines together to result in depression. It is true that it is ultimately biochemical, but it is certainly not true that it is the only way to treat depression (it may be, it may not be in individual cases). Physiological imbalances can cause biochemical imbalances.

* My textbook on human physiology says that we generally derive 15% of our cholesterol from the diet, which we obtain only from foods of animal origin; and synthesise 85% internally mostly by the liver. (Saladin, K. S. 2012. Anatomy & physiology: The unity of form and function. 6th ed. p. 66). Imbalances can be corrected with a change in diet - eg. more saturated fat (specifically palmitic acid) stimulates the body to produce more cholesterol, more unsaturated fat (specifically linoleic acid) has the opposite effect.

** You do not need medication to cure intestinal worms, just eat two raw garlic cloves a day for two weeks. You can do the same with a pill, but the only appreciable difference is that they extracted the active ingredients from the garlic and put it into a pill, thus it is unnecessary.

(September 26, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Aractus Wrote:

(September 24, 2014 at 6:37 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: WEll i was hit by my break up, money, My parents being sick and being in 25k debt because of it, work and my depression.

However, it was like prison really no individuality barely any help with mental issues. I got the most help by gaining perspective from other people. It was strange....

Well I hope you get those issues worked out. Depression can be caused by dietary imbalances, hormone imbalances (eg hypothyroidism), low cholesterol* (link) (cholesterol being the precursor to all hormones), and parasites such as roundworm** "Signs of psychiatric disease (depression and psychosis) were found in over 65% of neurocysticercosis cases" (link) and I suggest you consider all the possible causes and address each one systematically to be sure. I highly suggest a blood test, if you have not already had one, to test your cholesterol and hormone levels, and the thyroid.

Hopefully your GP has already told you this, but if not take charge of your health and immediately start ruling out the physiological causes. Your GP can advise you, and help especially by administering a blood test, if he finds something abnormal in it he can suggest a course of treatment. Most of the physiological causes of depression are quite easily treated. Good luck.

Try as many things as possible, do not believe that depression is incurable or that the causes I suggested do not apply to you until you've ruled them out. Depression has many clinically proven physiological causes. It is also possible that more than one cause combines together to result in depression. It is true that it is ultimately biochemical, but it is certainly not true that it is the only way to treat depression (it may be, it may not be in individual cases). Physiological imbalances can cause biochemical imbalances.

* My textbook on human physiology says that we generally derive 15% of our cholesterol from the diet, which we obtain only from foods of animal origin; and synthesise 85% internally mostly by the liver. (Saladin, K. S. 2012. Anatomy & physiology: The unity of form and function. 6th ed. p. 66). Imbalances can be corrected with a change in diet - eg. more saturated fat (specifically palmitic acid) stimulates the body to produce more cholesterol, more unsaturated fat (specifically linoleic acid) has the opposite effect.

** You do not need medication to cure intestinal worms, just eat two raw garlic cloves a day for two weeks. You can do the same with a pill, but the only appreciable difference is that they extracted the active ingredients from the garlic and put it into a pill, thus it is unnecessary.

There are two abnormal things that was found in my blood. My blood has a high red blood cell count and high white blood cell count (not the immune ones) which apparently means I have thick blood. Also, I seem to have a high iron content possibly dangerously high to the point I might have to give blood to prevent damage to my liver.

(September 26, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Aractus Wrote:

(September 24, 2014 at 6:37 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: WEll i was hit by my break up, money, My parents being sick and being in 25k debt because of it, work and my depression.

However, it was like prison really no individuality barely any help with mental issues. I got the most help by gaining perspective from other people. It was strange....

Well I hope you get those issues worked out. Depression can be caused by dietary imbalances, hormone imbalances (eg hypothyroidism), low cholesterol* (link) (cholesterol being the precursor to all hormones), and parasites such as roundworm** "Signs of psychiatric disease (depression and psychosis) were found in over 65% of neurocysticercosis cases" (link) and I suggest you consider all the possible causes and address each one systematically to be sure. I highly suggest a blood test, if you have not already had one, to test your cholesterol and hormone levels, and the thyroid.

Hopefully your GP has already told you this, but if not take charge of your health and immediately start ruling out the physiological causes. Your GP can advise you, and help especially by administering a blood test, if he finds something abnormal in it he can suggest a course of treatment. Most of the physiological causes of depression are quite easily treated. Good luck.

Try as many things as possible, do not believe that depression is incurable or that the causes I suggested do not apply to you until you've ruled them out. Depression has many clinically proven physiological causes. It is also possible that more than one cause combines together to result in depression. It is true that it is ultimately biochemical, but it is certainly not true that it is the only way to treat depression (it may be, it may not be in individual cases). Physiological imbalances can cause biochemical imbalances.

* My textbook on human physiology says that we generally derive 15% of our cholesterol from the diet, which we obtain only from foods of animal origin; and synthesise 85% internally mostly by the liver. (Saladin, K. S. 2012. Anatomy & physiology: The unity of form and function. 6th ed. p. 66). Imbalances can be corrected with a change in diet - eg. more saturated fat (specifically palmitic acid) stimulates the body to produce more cholesterol, more unsaturated fat (specifically linoleic acid) has the opposite effect.

** You do not need medication to cure intestinal worms, just eat two raw garlic cloves a day for two weeks. You can do the same with a pill, but the only appreciable difference is that they extracted the active ingredients from the garlic and put it into a pill, thus it is unnecessary.

GPs dont do shit here in the states. Psychiatrists just give you reliant worthy medications. There is no treatment for depression here, its why we are all depressed. If you want healed, you do it yourself. You learn to become a doctor.

That is basically it....if you are not a cog you are worthless!

(September 26, 2014 at 11:39 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: There are two abnormal things that was found in my blood. My blood has a high red blood cell count and high white blood cell count (not the immune ones) which apparently means I have thick blood. Also, I seem to have a high iron content possibly dangerously high to the point I might have to give blood to prevent damage to my liver.

RBC's carry oxygen (they are not actually cells as my book points out because they have no nucleus). Or to get really technical, RBC's carry haemoglobin and haemoglobin carries oxygen. High RBC's can be caused by: cancer!, smoking, air pollution, emphysema, high altitude, excessive aerobic exercise, or other factors that create a state of hypoxemia (O2 deficiency in the blood). Ironically low iron counts are one cause of hypoxemia. If I were you I'd look into the causes and work out what is causing it. If you're a smoker it's probably a combination of smoking and emphysema. But I suggest in any case you work out what the cause is, especially if it's cancer. Get another test - I'm not sure how long you should wait ask a GP or pharmacist - if the RBC count is increasing then it's likely cancer.

RBC's are the biggest objects in your blood, hence yes you have "thick blood".

Your body recycles iron very effectively. I don't know why or how high blood iron happens, but I'd look into the causes if I were you.

Did your blood test include your cholesterol and hormone levels?

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(September 27, 2014 at 12:58 am)Luckie Wrote: GPs dont do shit here in the states. Psychiatrists just give you reliant worthy medications. There is no treatment for depression here, its why we are all depressed. If you want healed, you do it yourself. You learn to become a doctor.

The problem with depression is that it has many causes - some are physiological and some are psychological. GP's can certainly help you with the physiological causes so long as they get identified. And the issue you've raised is all the more reason to take charge and ask more questions of your doctor!

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@bladevalant546 - Sorry, I completely missed your high WBC count somehow. High WBC counts are caused by: infection (usually), allergy, other diseases, dehydration and emotional responses. You said that you have a normal level of autoimmune WBCs (the ones that fight infection). I do not know how that affects what the possible causes are, and I wouldn't want to assume. Best to look at your actual data and ask a professional. When you know what the possible causes are in your case you can go about resolving them.