Truth equals reality and reality exists.

Truth is reality but reality changes over time and place.

You are really a deep person whoooaaa

Reality is reality! DUH!
Truth is a description of reality which is biased/skewed by our perception of reality.

For example: it is true that the sun goes from East to West in the sky.
The reality is that the Earth spins, giving the apparent movement of the sun in the sky.

EDIT:
for this reason, you hear a lot of theists claiming "truth", but seldom claiming to know "reality".

(October 30, 2014 at 6:32 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: Hello!
By this I mean do you believe truths exist that are ALWAYS true regardless of time, location, or circumstance? I don't intend to challenge any belief in this thread... I am simply taking note of them and categorizing them statistically.

This is put to the lie by...

Quote: Universal/Absolute truth would imply the existence of God, as it goes beyond chemical reaction and matter. It is a spiritual concept, for instance "thou shalt do no murder" would be considered by a theist to be universally/absolutely true. "For God so loved the world" would be another truth they recognize as universal.

....this.

Quote: So does the Atheist believe in a spiritual concept, or do they believe absolute/universal truth does not exist?

I'm going to start a poll, entitled- "Does poor thinking making you throw up in your mouth". There will only be 3 possible answer.

-Yes, always
-Only a little
and
-Your "Polls" serve only as vehicles for false dilemmas we've heard a dozen times, you're a cunt Rhythm.

As an expert poll taker and data gatherer, is there anything that you would change about my poll?

(October 31, 2014 at 10:33 am)polar bear Wrote: Truth is reality but reality changes over time and place.

There ya go. Some things are simpler than they seem. :-)

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(October 31, 2014 at 10:37 am)pocaracas Wrote: Reality is reality! DUH!
Truth is a description of reality which is biased/skewed by our perception of reality.

Truth is an accurate description of reality. If always skewed, then no truth. But I did have coffee this morning. That's the truth, everywhere and for all time, honest. :-)

Some honesty would be needed, "I believe in a god, I don't know what it is and I really don't have a clue about it"

Asking too much, am I?

(October 30, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: I am posting this for theists in another section. This is specifically referring to moral truth.

In that case no.

In fact extremely obviously not.

Morals change according to the conventions of society.

In Pakistan honour killings are common for girls dancing in the rain or fancying boys not chosen by their father. In that area killing the girl is the moral thing to do.

In the Aztec empire the priests, the guardians of morality used to cut out the beating hearts of war captives with sharpened knives.

Etc Etc.

All over the world and at different times we see many examples of varying morality.

(October 30, 2014 at 6:32 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: Hello!
By this I mean do you believe truths exist that are ALWAYS true regardless of time, location, or circumstance? I don't intend to challenge any belief in this thread... I am simply taking note of them and categorizing them statistically.

Universal/Absolute truth would imply the existence of God, as it goes beyond chemical reaction and matter. It is a spiritual concept, for instance "thou shalt do no murder" would be considered by a theist to be universally/absolutely true. "For God so loved the world" would be another truth they recognize as universal.

So does the Atheist believe in a spiritual concept, or do they believe absolute/universal truth does not exist?

When you vote, please offer your thoughts as well, and thank you very much!

Define "true"

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(October 30, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote:

(October 30, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Chas Wrote: Your question is too broad. Do you mean ideas? morals? rules? laws?
There appear to be universal truths about the physical universe, but I suspect you don't mean that.

I am posting this for theists in another section. This is specifically referring to moral truth.

Moral precepts by my definition are never true by my definition of "true".

(October 31, 2014 at 12:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: All over the world and at different times we see many examples of varying morality.

In Moses' day, it was A-OK with the Hebrews (and Yahweh himself) to kill children and take captured young girls as sex slaves.

Today, I suspect such views would be frowned upon. At least in most places...

(October 30, 2014 at 6:32 pm)Tsun Tsu Wrote: Hello!
By this I mean do you believe truths exist that are ALWAYS true regardless of time, location, or circumstance? I don't intend to challenge any belief in this thread... I am simply taking note of them and categorizing them statistically.

I gather from a later clarification that you mean absolute moral truth. Human's concept of moral truth changes with time and place. So no.

Quote:Universal/Absolute truth would imply the existence of God, as it goes beyond chemical reaction and matter.

I don't think absolute moral truth would imply the existence of god. The gods invented so far, aren't very moral in my judgment. They behave like spoiled children most of the time.

Quote:It is a spiritual concept, for instance "thou shalt do no murder" would be considered by a theist to be universally/absolutely true.

The man who wrote this was a theist: "Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" Psalm 137:9 Isn't dashing babies' heads in murder? I could go on and on with god sanctioned murder in the OT. The Koran is no better. Frankly, belief in a god often leads to belief in all sorts of killing. Theism does not necessarily lead to thou shalt not kill.

Quote: "For God so loved the world" would be another truth they recognize as universal.

Really? It's not a Jewish concept or a Muslim one as far as I know. It's a Christian concept.

Quote:So does the Atheist believe in a spiritual concept, or do they believe absolute/universal truth does not exist?

An atheist could believe in spirituality, absolute, morals, or reincarnation, and still be an atheist. An atheist is a person who does not believe in a god or gods. That's it.