Theists reasoning why god exists and their proof

A waited a solid 5 seconds before I got it.

Ahhhhh! I got suckered too Took me about 8 seconds. Nice!

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Holy shit, utterly brilliantly amazing video series. Pure genius, and anyone who thinks they can refute this is a gibbering idiot of the highest order.

Whoever that guy is, he is brilliant. But what is a Dieist Paladain? Is it a paladin who dies more than other paladins?

Worse than the ad-hoc hypotheses are the ad-hoc statements. They miss out the maybe, and just assert that some ridiculous scenario did actually happen. The only backup seems to be that it must have happened that way, because otherwise what they believe is wrong.

To them it's always better to make up one more thing than to think.

(December 10, 2014 at 7:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: Theists reasoning why god exists and their proof
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I don't call it "circular reasoning". I call it "well-rounded logic".

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(December 10, 2014 at 9:06 am)Exian Wrote: This is also what places the OP squarely in the Poe category, even with the tells.

Personally, I would put the presuppositionalist argument differently:

"Nyth nyth you don't know everything, therefore Jesus"

I mean, that is the presup argument but just boiled down to a single sentence to cut to the chase.

It only makes sense to those who are full of The Holy Spirit.

(December 11, 2014 at 10:57 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 7:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: Theists reasoning why god exists and their proof
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I don't call it "circular reasoning". I call it "well-rounded logic".

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(December 10, 2014 at 9:06 am)Exian Wrote: This is also what places the OP squarely in the Poe category, even with the tells.

Personally, I would put the presuppositionalist argument differently:

"Nyth nyth you don't know everything, therefore Jesus"

I mean, that is the presup argument but just boiled down to a single sentence to cut to the chase.

It only makes sense to those who are full of The Holy Spirit.

yes yes jesus was very "special" indeed even in the bible it pointed out jesus was very "special" as a child because he lost his mind and never got it back.

The Romans were really shit if they can't even crucify someone properly.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:28 am)robvalue Wrote: The Romans were really shit if they can't even crucify someone properly.

the poor guy passed out from blood loss then got up and visited 3 very dumb women who were illiterate then ran off.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:28 am)robvalue Wrote: The Romans were really shit if they can't even crucify someone properly.

A good point. If Jesus really was seen alive after being crucified by the Romans, they'd have shit a brick over that.

The whole point of crucifixion is not just to execute someone but to execute them publicly and painfully on display for all to see as a grim warning "don't fuck with us". They didn't allow their crucified prisoners to be buried either. They left your dead carcass up on that cross to rot, stink and have crows pick your body apart as the final insult. Your corpse only came down when it finally rotted off the cross.

If any condemned criminal were discovered to have survived the execution, the Romans would have spared no expense to hunt them down. It would be like a rebellion going unpunished. Such a thing would damage the whole terrifying point of such a public execution. At the very least, there should be some record of it.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:28 am)robvalue Wrote: The Romans were really shit if they can't even crucify someone properly.

Don't worry. They nailed it!