(December 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Elskidor Wrote:

(December 20, 2014 at 6:15 pm)Spooky Wrote: Most Christians I know would say "god worked through the doctors".

It's even sadder if the doctor says the same thing.

I think God does work through doctors. If you had cancer and you prayed that God heal you of it. In the course of time by working with your doctors you were cancer free. It was still a answer to prayer.

(December 21, 2014 at 10:17 am)strawdawg Wrote:

(December 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Elskidor Wrote: It's even sadder if the doctor says the same thing.

I think God does work through doctors. If you had cancer and you prayed that God heal you of it. In the course of time by working with your doctors you were cancer free. It was still a answer to prayer.

So if we had complete and total scientific repression and were a population of filthy nomads who had no doctors of any kind...would god still be able to cure cancer?

(December 21, 2014 at 10:21 am)Spooky Wrote:

(December 21, 2014 at 10:17 am)strawdawg Wrote: I think God does work through doctors. If you had cancer and you prayed that God heal you of it. In the course of time by working with your doctors you were cancer free. It was still a answer to prayer.

So if we had complete and total scientific repression and were a population of filthy nomads who had no doctors of any kind...would god still be able to cure cancer?

Good question, God would have less options with their healings, but yes he would still be able.

(December 21, 2014 at 10:36 am)strawdawg Wrote:

(December 21, 2014 at 10:21 am)Spooky Wrote: So if we had complete and total scientific repression and were a population of filthy nomads who had no doctors of any kind...would god still be able to cure cancer?

Good question, God would have less options with their healings, but yes he would still be able.

Of course. Their?

Can you offer anything to support your statement?

How can you possibly demonstrate that God was behind something? How can you tell the difference between a very rare event, and a very rare event that is a miracle?

(December 21, 2014 at 12:34 pm)robvalue Wrote: How can you possibly demonstrate that God was behind something? How can you tell the difference between a very rare event, and a very rare event that is a miracle?

You cannot. I believe we're now defaulting to "Everything is a miracle, because everything comes from god".

(December 16, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Spooky Wrote: Minus all the coincidences many attribute to miracles nowadays, it seems like there were more nifty displays "Back then". Dammit I want to see a show, what gives Christianity?

What are you talking about? God totally does miracles in this day and age!

• Heals ailments, like back pain, that cannot be proven to exist in the first place.
  
• Gives football players winning touch downs.
  
• Gives people the Holy Spirit, which they can unambiguously define, every time as being God, and not dopamine.
  
• Sometimes makes weather good for outdoor events, when he feels like it.
  
• Sometimes cures cancer, when he feels like it.
  
• Lets people win beauty pageants.
  
• Sometimes gets people out of dangerous, life-threatening situations, when he feels like it.
  
• Sometimes kills people with lightning or other natural disasters, and they probably totally had it coming.
  
• The complexity of creation is a miracle. God did that.
  
• That one time a friend of a friend saw something totally supernatural and unexplainable when there were no witnesses. For real, guys.
  

You just have to open your eyes and look around, man.

A miracle to me might not be a miracle to you. I once held the atheist views. In the course of time I reverted back to what I knew and felt comfortable with.

I'm confused. What are you saying a miracle is? If it's just something that impresses you personally, then that's cool, but usually the word miracle is reserved for breaking the rules of nature and/or divine intervention. In the latter cases, either this has happened or it has not.

(December 21, 2014 at 10:36 am)strawdawg Wrote:

(December 21, 2014 at 10:21 am)Spooky Wrote: So if we had complete and total scientific repression and were a population of filthy nomads who had no doctors of any kind...would god still be able to cure cancer?

Good question, God would have less options with their healings, but yes he would still be able.

But people who don't believe also are healed so their prayers didn't work in conjunction with god because they didn't say prayers

Because we have a few religious posters who are jerks, I wanted to say thank you Strawdog for being polite and occasionally admitting that you don't have the answer