Not gonna explain your insult then?

(December 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm)strawdawg Wrote: You have a twisted view of religion. No doubt you're a product of what life has dealt you.

What a glib, baseless dismissal you have there.

(December 27, 2014 at 12:52 pm)robvalue Wrote: Not gonna explain your insult then?

I never meant to insult. I apologize profusely.

OK fair enough

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I'll tell you this much, I've been fighting suicidal thoughts for some 7-8 years now and a few years ago it's all I could think about 24/7.

I pulled through the worst of it by the skin of my teeth, and without the support of my wife I think it's unlikely I'd still be here.

I'd God wanted to pick a time to turn up, introduce himself and help me, that would have been it. But not a whisper in the wind.

And please don't anyone say God was acting through my wife. It's the most ridiculous rationalization in order to give credit to God whether or not he even exists. If you want to bring god into it, I would blame him for putting me through hell on earth for no apparent reason. If he saved me from it, he gave me it in the first place.

I'm not mad at God, I simply see no evidence that any exist. All I see is evidence to the contrary.

(December 27, 2014 at 12:45 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Did you know the Jewish religion was a Polytheistic religion up until the time of Isiah? The scribes did some serious editing and it became monotheistic religion.

Of course I know. And Yahweh was an import from Ugarit, where he had 11 siblings.

The polytheism also bleeds heavily into christianity with it's trinity, which always requires some serious theological mental acrobatics to even try to explain. Also it had been there before in many cultures. Only they never claimed to be monotheistic.

That is one of the dumbest things, christianty is supposed to be true, but contains copy and pastes from other "false" religions.

(December 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm)strawdawg Wrote:

(December 25, 2014 at 5:47 pm)abaris Wrote: You really ask that question?

Have you looked at this board at all, since some wind blew you in here? This question has been asked about a billion times and answered in a billion threads at nauseum.

You really don't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

I assume you are the sharpest tool in the shed, right? What do you base that on?

It's right here in this thread, where you display an ignorance of atheists and morality.

Well you can pretend to be a Christian for 75$ a week or you can quit. I mean it's not really complicated choices.

(December 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: OK fair enough

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I'll tell you this much, I've been fighting suicidal thoughts for some 7-8 years now and a few years ago it's all I could think about 24/7.

I pulled through the worst of it by the skin of my teeth, and without the support of my wife I think it's unlikely I'd still be here.

I'd God wanted to pick a time to turn up, introduce himself and help me, that would have been it. But not a whisper in the wind.

And please don't anyone say God was acting through my wife. It's the most ridiculous rationalization in order to give credit to God whether or not he even exists. If you want to bring god into it, I would blame him for putting me through hell on earth for no apparent reason. If he saved me from it, he gave me it in the first place.

I'm not mad at God, I simply see no evidence that any exist. All I see is evidence to the contrary.

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. I know where you're coming from. I'm a paralegal my husband is an attorney. I began to have emotional issues. Bad to. He up and leaves me for someone else. Sooo, I'm divorced. My standard of living as you can imagine took a hit. Things are Okay now but I still fight getting into the rut I was in. Unlike you I turned to God, I had no where else to go. He helped me, that is not to say I was problem free, I wasn't. I have learned to forgive. My ex has 3 little girls now, I have even baby sat for them. There's guilt there, he helped me get the job I have now. It was painful but it worked out.

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My Dad had a saying....God helps those that help themselves. It's true.

(December 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm)strawdawg Wrote:

(December 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: OK fair enough

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I'll tell you this much, I've been fighting suicidal thoughts for some 7-8 years now and a few years ago it's all I could think about 24/7.

I pulled through the worst of it by the skin of my teeth, and without the support of my wife I think it's unlikely I'd still be here.

I'd God wanted to pick a time to turn up, introduce himself and help me, that would have been it. But not a whisper in the wind.

And please don't anyone say God was acting through my wife. It's the most ridiculous rationalization in order to give credit to God whether or not he even exists. If you want to bring god into it, I would blame him for putting me through hell on earth for no apparent reason. If he saved me from it, he gave me it in the first place.

I'm not mad at God, I simply see no evidence that any exist. All I see is evidence to the contrary.

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. I know where you're coming from. I'm a paralegal my husband is an attorney. I began to have emotional issues. Bad to. He up and leaves me for someone else. Sooo, I'm divorced. My standard of living as you can imagine took a hit. Things are Okay now but I still fight getting into the rut I was in. Unlike you I turned to God, I had no where else to go. He helped me, that is not to say I was problem free, I wasn't. I have learned to forgive. My ex has 3 little girls now, I have even baby sat for them. There's guilt there, he helped me get the job I have now. It was painful but it worked out.

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My Dad had a saying....God helps those that help themselves. It's true.

I'm glad to hear that you got through those difficulties.

I find atheism is much better than theism. It's a relief to know that nothing I do matters very much in the long run. I can take happiness in small accomplishments and not beat myself up for past mistakes.

Of course if believing in God helps you then that is good too.