(January 4, 2015 at 5:25 am)robvalue Wrote: My world has already fallen apart.

That's sad, how has it fallen apart if you don't mind me asking.

I came here with an idea of what an atheist is, some was true some wasn't so I've learned more about who atheist are. However this wasn't why I came. I came to grow in my belief and faith, I have, being challenged has help me to seek answers from the scriptures, challenges that would have not come any other way. I also come to challenge the atheist on what they believe, doubt I have, but then that's up to each individual.

GC

(January 4, 2015 at 5:36 am)Godschild Wrote: I came here with an idea of what an atheist is, some was true some wasn't so I've learned more about who atheist are. However this wasn't why I came. I came to grow in my belief and faith, I have, being challenged has help me to seek answers from the scriptures, challenges that would have not come any other way. I also come to challenge the atheist on what they believe, doubt I have, but then that's up to each individual.

GC

That's beautiful Godschild, never let anyone persuade you into their beliefs systems, religion isn't perfect, but so isn't atheism, if your beautiful beliefs are for you you will know, if their not you will know. Its all about being true to ourselves, if you are true to yourself, and your belief is everything to you, then don't give a shit what anyone else says about you belief, for they only live in their hell.

(January 4, 2015 at 5:25 am)robvalue Wrote: My world has already fallen apart.

You told me about your problem. Are you getting help? If not please seek help.

(January 4, 2015 at 5:30 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(January 4, 2015 at 5:25 am)robvalue Wrote: My world has already fallen apart.

That's sad, how has it fallen apart if you don't mind me asking.

I died inside many years ago. All I do now is drag myself around like a zombie trying to fight off the urge to kill myself, and delaying the urge to give up and collapse in a heap. ME has drained all my energy, I feel like I'm a car trying to drive down a never ending road with just a tea spoon full of petrol.

I promised my wife I won't kill myself so while I'm still here I try and do what little good I can while trying to stop myself going insane. I don't enjoy things anymore like I used to, they are just ways to keep my darkness and despair at bay for a bit.

Glad you asked now huh Very kind of you to be interested. Amidst all this despair, and even longing for death through an incurable disease or an accident, never once do I turn to superstition.

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My mind is too fiercely logical and analytical for that, so much so it drives me mad at times.

(January 4, 2015 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote:

(January 4, 2015 at 5:30 am)psychoslice Wrote: That's sad, how has it fallen apart if you don't mind me asking.

I died inside many years ago. All I do now is drag myself around like a zombie trying to fight off the urge to kill myself, and delaying the urge to give up and collapse in a heap. ME has drained all my energy, I feel like I'm a car trying to drive down a never ending road with just a tea spoon full of petrol.

I promised my wife I won't kill myself so while I'm still here I try and do what little good I can while trying to stop myself going insane. I don't enjoy things anymore like I used to, they are just ways to keep my darkness and despair at bay for a bit.

Glad you asked now huh Very kind of you to be interested. Amidst all this despair, and even longing for death through an incurable disease or an accident, never once do I turn to superstition.

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My mind is too fiercely logical and analytical for that, so much so it drives me mad at times.

Rob I was in about the same shape you are in and I finally pulled out of it.

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(January 4, 2015 at 6:10 am)strawdawg Wrote:

(January 4, 2015 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote: I died inside many years ago. All I do now is drag myself around like a zombie trying to fight off the urge to kill myself, and delaying the urge to give up and collapse in a heap. ME has drained all my energy, I feel like I'm a car trying to drive down a never ending road with just a tea spoon full of petrol.

I promised my wife I won't kill myself so while I'm still here I try and do what little good I can while trying to stop myself going insane. I don't enjoy things anymore like I used to, they are just ways to keep my darkness and despair at bay for a bit.

Glad you asked now huh Very kind of you to be interested. Amidst all this despair, and even longing for death through an incurable disease or an accident, never once do I turn to superstition.

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My mind is too fiercely logical and analytical for that, so much so it drives me mad at times.

Rob I was in about the same shape you are in and I finally pulled out of it.

You used the word petrol are you not in the U.S.?

(January 4, 2015 at 6:07 am)robvalue Wrote:

(January 4, 2015 at 5:30 am)psychoslice Wrote: That's sad, how has it fallen apart if you don't mind me asking.

I died inside many years ago. All I do now is drag myself around like a zombie trying to fight off the urge to kill myself, and delaying the urge to give up and collapse in a heap. ME has drained all my energy, I feel like I'm a car trying to drive down a never ending road with just a tea spoon full of petrol.

I promised my wife I won't kill myself so while I'm still here I try and do what little good I can while trying to stop myself going insane. I don't enjoy things anymore like I used to, they are just ways to keep my darkness and despair at bay for a bit.

Glad you asked now huh Very kind of you to be interested. Amidst all this despair, and even longing for death through an incurable disease or an accident, never once do I turn to superstition.

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My mind is too fiercely logical and analytical for that, so much so it drives me mad at times.

I'll let you into a little secret, I have cut myself and let the blood flow, in just the last hour, it makes me feel better. I have been through a lot in my life, I was raped as a child, I was shot by someone along a highway just out of my town, I also had cancer, but I keep going on, because I enjoy life, fuck all the so called bad shit, its all part of life, just focus on the good stuff and fuck all the crap, that's the only way you will ever enjoy this life.

No I'm in England. I'm lucky that I don't face oppression as an atheist here. I count every mercy.

I'm very sorry to hear what you have been through psycho, that is awful. I'm really glad you are finding a way to enjoy life. I try really hard, one of the things that is so draining is just keeping my mind positive. I live in hope I may eventually start wanting to live for my own sake, and start enjoying things again. But sadly I can't count on it. Believe me, I've fought with all my might just to be alive to this point, and I continue to press on and do the best I can.

(January 4, 2015 at 6:16 am)robvalue Wrote: No I'm in England. I'm lucky that I don't face oppression as an atheist here. I count every mercy.

I'm very sorry to hear what you have been through psycho, that is awful. I'm really glad you are finding a way to enjoy life. I try really hard, one of the things that is so draining is just keeping my mind positive. I live in hope I may eventually start wanting to live for my own sake, and start enjoying things again. But sadly I can't count on it. Believe me, I've fought with all my might just to be alive to this point, and I continue to press on and do the best I can.

I think sometimes we expect too much out of ourselves. The cure is don't do much and don't expect much. I went from a somebody to a nobody but I'm happy.

(January 4, 2015 at 6:16 am)robvalue Wrote: No I'm in England. I'm lucky that I don't face oppression as an atheist here. I count every mercy.

I'm very sorry to hear what you have been through psycho, that is awful. I'm really glad you are finding a way to enjoy life. I try really hard, one of the things that is so draining is just keeping my mind positive. I live in hope I may eventually start wanting to live for my own sake, and start enjoying things again. But sadly I can't count on it. Believe me, I've fought with all my might just to be alive to this point, and I continue to press on and do the best I can.

I really hope you can get though this, always remember that you are more than you think you are, you are in fact all there is, your not just the mind body organism, I know its hard to believe this but it true, we are all one in the Cosmos, the body is just simply a wave on the ocean, and the truth is the we are the ocean, not the wave, I hope you can get this.