(March 2, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Oh wow. I was referring to the questions I asked you.

You didn't pose it as a yes or no question, if the answer wasn't obvious, it's no.

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(March 2, 2015 at 1:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Never heard that time is relative?

So..why not just state in genesis that it took 6,000 years.

This

Quote:Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

(March 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Oh wow. I was referring to the questions I asked you.

You didn't pose it as a yes or no question, if the answer wasn't obvious, it's no.

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: So, you don't wear mixed fabrics?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Do you stone adulterers?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Do you avoid mixing meat and dairy, eating pork and fat, eating any meat not killed according to kosher practice?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Are you circumcised?

Not a yes or no question?

Those things are in the bible. And you said you believe the whole bible. How come you don't practice what it tells you?

(March 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So..why not just state in genesis that it took 6,000 years.

This

Quote:Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

So..God is being intentionally unclear or outright deceitful...and we're supposed to thank him for that?

(March 2, 2015 at 1:29 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: This

So..God is being intentionally unclear or outright deceitful...and we're supposed to thank him for that?

The Christian God is like Loki, the Trickster. Or perhaps, Yahweh/Jeebs/Ghosty gits the debble tah do dah dirty woik:

Teach the controversy!

(March 2, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:09 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The thing is, were not required to try to explain everything about the bible, Just believe it.

What a wonderful argument: "If you just believe the bible, then you'll believe the bible!"

'Course, if you don't want to shoulder your burden of proof, that doesn't mean it no longer exists. It just means you've failed to deal with it, which leaves your beliefs in an irrational quagmire. If that's okay to you, then fine, but don't expect us to take your position seriously if you're content to just believe it, and defend it with the vaguest of "this, possibly!" style arguments.

If you choose not to believe, that's your choice. It's not for the unbeliever it's only for those willing to make that "leap of faith".

Quote:Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;

The thing about 'leaps of faith' is you can leap to any belief at all via that method, including ones mutually exclusive to ones to which someone else leapt.

(March 2, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Norman Humann Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You didn't pose it as a yes or no question, if the answer wasn't obvious, it's no.

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: So, you don't wear mixed fabrics?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Do you stone adulterers?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Do you avoid mixing meat and dairy, eating pork and fat, eating any meat not killed according to kosher practice?

Not a yes or no question?

(March 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Are you circumcised?

Not a yes or no question?

Those things are in the bible. And you said you believe the whole bible. How come you don't practice what it tells you?

Lol, you ask supposed yes or no questions but also want an explanation, which I already gave you by the way.

Galatians 3
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

(March 2, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: If you choose not to believe, that's your choice. It's not for the unbeliever it's only for those willing to make that "leap of faith".

If you had evidence you would present it. If you actually knew something you could point to that evidence. Instead, all believers have is the empty platitude of "faith". If faith worked, believers would apply the same process and arrive at the same conclusions. And yet they never do.

Unfortunately, faith is just "pretending to know what you don't know". So, translated, your sentence becomes:

"It's not for the unbeliever it's only for those willing to make that leap of pretending to know what you don't know."

Hilarious.

(March 2, 2015 at 1:57 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Lol, you ask supposed yes or no questions but also want an explanation, which I already gave you by the way.

Galatians 3
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

"Oh yeah, the Old Testament, uhhh... just a metaphor, we don't do this stuff anymore"

(March 2, 2015 at 1:29 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(March 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: This

So..God is being intentionally unclear or outright deceitful...and we're supposed to thank him for that?

No
God deals in simplicity.

Quote:Matthew 18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The lower (humble) you are, the greater you are in Gods eyes.

Quote:Matthew 23:12
And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Highly educated people tend to be arrogant, you know, thinking they can explain the beginning of the universe and things of that nature.

If you drop a needle, the best way to find it is to get on your knees and look for it, you find God the same way.

It's that simple...