(March 4, 2015 at 4:07 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I don't have time right now, but I'm sure you'll want to know about the Gospel genealogies.

Only if I have trouble sleeping.

Pretty much jesus is not necessary if anything because before the whole mythos of yaweh there was tons of other gods and creation myths.

(March 4, 2015 at 3:37 pm)FiveSpotCharlie Wrote: Please forgive me if this has been covered. I did search, but didn't find anything that seemed to address this directly.

I'm having trouble with what to me seems like a very simple concept.

In it's simplest possible terms:
Evolution is a Fact, we evolved as a species, not from a single human.
Therefor, Genesis in the Bible, in particular Adam can't be fact.
Without Adam, there is no Original Sin.
Without Original Sin, there is no need for Jesus Sacrifice.
Jesus Death is THE pillar of Christianity.
Christianity is unfounded, and therefor false.

What am I missing? Why is this seeming simple progression not a total refutation of Christianity?

Again.. if this has indeed been covered, I apologize, and ask for a quick link.

the book is not meant to be literal. so any literal interpretation is wrong. "Jesus" is a fine character. "not needed"? nobody is that needed anyway.

(March 4, 2015 at 4:20 pm)comet Wrote: the book is not meant to be literal. so any literal interpretation is wrong.

Called it.

Here is a link to a Catholic page discussing that issue:
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/adam-eve-and-evolution

FiveSpot, you are totally correct.
One of our guys does address that.

And one view of life is right and one is wrong.
Gentlemen (and Ladies) place your bets... oh, I see you already have?
You may still have opportunity to fold and re-consider.
Closing time is coming.

(March 4, 2015 at 3:37 pm)FiveSpotCharlie Wrote: Please forgive me if this has been covered. I did search, but didn't find anything that seemed to address this directly.

I'm having trouble with what to me seems like a very simple concept.

In it's simplest possible terms:
Evolution is a Fact, we evolved as a species, not from a single human.
Therefor, Genesis in the Bible, in particular Adam can't be fact.
Without Adam, there is no Original Sin.
Without Original Sin, there is no need for Jesus Sacrifice.
Jesus Death is THE pillar of Christianity.
Christianity is unfounded, and therefor false.

What am I missing? Why is this seeming simple progression not a total refutation of Christianity?

Again.. if this has indeed been covered, I apologize, and ask for a quick link.

-Or you can say the doctrine of 'Orginal sin' is not identified in the bible.

Eitherway, the fact of the matter is you still have sinned, and owe a debt because of it.

(March 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)professor Wrote: FiveSpot, you are totally correct.
One of our guys does address that.

And one view of life is right and one is wrong.
Gentlemen (and Ladies) place your bets... oh, I see you already have?
You may still have opportunity to fold and re-consider.
Closing time is coming.

. . . says the guy who's holding a deuce, a four, an eight, a ten, and a queen with no flush. Bluff all you want. That joker you're palming won't help you a bit.

I call -- bullshit!

The whole of Genesis can be picked apart by an elementary school child. If the entire creation myth can be dismantled line by line, something that seems impossible from a work that is supposedly the "inspired word of god", then the rest crumbles along with it.

Quote:What am I missing?

You are missing that you are dealing with fucking morons...like drippy up above.

There is no hope for people who cling to fairy tales into adulthood.