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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm
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(March 19, 2015 at 12:43 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can count the number of times a theist has admitted a mistake on this forum on one hand. Here you go.
(March 7, 2014 at 1:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 7, 2014 at 12:47 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Lent is predominantly a Catholic practice, it definitely is only practiced by denominational Churches.
Patently untrue. I grew up in a Non-denominational church. That practiced lent.
Then I stand corrected.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Again, Huggy goes for the 'gotcha'.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm
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How is that a gotcha?
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Huggy, it's possible to count to two on one hand, you know.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:57 pm
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Because you went back nearly two weeks in search of an example to disprove Rob's obviously-humorous (though possibly true) assertion. What's more, the post you linked doesn't do anything to counteract what Rob said.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:57 pm
(March 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 19, 2015 at 12:43 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can count the number of times a theist has admitted a mistake on this forum on one hand.
(March 7, 2014 at 1:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Then I stand corrected.
I can't believe I have to tell you this, but hands have five fingers.
FatAndFaithless Wrote:Everyone makes mistakes, Huggy, the thing is to admit when you've misunderstood something. And trying to dredge up a minor error on my part (which was swiftly rectified openly and readily by myself) in order to distract from the mountainous farrago of dishonest pseduoscientific cherry picking two-faced bullshit you've been steadily constructing in this thread it at once humorous, obvious, and irritating.
With all due respect (i.e. none), go fuck yourself.
Just look at his sig: the last one (before he changed it to you because he's an ass) was just a simple error that he felt the need to crow about endlessly. Of course, he didn't include the very next part of the exchange, where Rhythm admitted he was wrong and changed his position, because that would be intellectually honest, and all Huggy really wants is to make fun of us for being wrong at all, because ha ha you're wrong.
It's kinda like arguing with a toddler, where he'll constantly try to twist technicalities so that he's right no matter what, while turning your every honest error, even if you admit to it, into an opportunity to taunt you.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
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Huh, I didn't even realize he had changed his signature. Oh well, more name-advertising for me!
Hah, and he didn't even include the first sentence of my response in his signature.
But seriously, at what point is this kind of blatant dishonesty against the rules?
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
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(March 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: How is that a gotcha?
Because rob never said "theists never say they were wrong," he said it is rare when they do.
(March 19, 2015 at 12:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Because you went back nearly two weeks in search of an example to disprove Rob's obviously-humorous (though possibly true) assertion. What's more, the post you linked doesn't do anything to counteract what Rob said.
Ah. Incorrect my friend. He went back a year and two weeks to find an instance where he admitted he was wrong.
(March 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But seriously, at what point is this kind of blatant dishonesty against the rules?
I think at the point when he was trying so hard to cover his bullshit that he actually quote mined himself.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm
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(March 19, 2015 at 11:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 19, 2015 at 11:42 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: None. We know the definition for 'species'. It's that 'kind' is a synonym for 'species' that you must establish. A great many of your co-religionists disagree with you on that point.
If I were you, I would go with 'kind=family", as I suggested earlier. It gets you out of nearly all of the problems you're having by insisting that 'kind' and 'species' are synonyms. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/species
Quote:Full Definition of SPECIES
1 a : kind, sort
Quote:Related to SPECIES
Synonyms
bracket, category, classification, division, family, genus, grade, group, kind, league, order, rank(s), rubric, set, class, tier, type
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/species
Quote:species
1. a class of individuals having some common characteristics or qualities; distinct sort or kind.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kind
Quote:kind
: a group of people or things that belong together or have some shared quality : a particular type or variety of person or thing
Quote:Related to KIND
Synonyms
breed, class, description, feather, genre, ilk, kidney, sort, like, manner, nature, order, species, strain, stripe, type, variety
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/kind
Quote:kind
1. a class or group of individual objects, people, animals, etc., of the same nature or character, or classified together because they have traits in common; category:
Quote:Synonyms
1. order, genus, species; breed; set.
Sigh. I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough to save you from wasting all of that bandwidth. I should have said that what you have to establish is that the authors of the Bible meant 'kind' as a synonym for the modern biological classification 'species'. Being a possible synonym in a dictionary doesn't mean that the authors of the Bible meant the modern biological classification of 'species' when they said 'kind'.
Many of your co-religionsts reach the somewhat more reasonable conclusion that the 'kind' of cats is not felis domesticus, but the cat family, from caracals to lions.
But if you want to insist, that's fine with me. Since 'kind'='species' and species can provably give rise to new species on a human timescale, the Bible contention that kinds/species 'bring forth after their kind' is completely refuted.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm
Well, that's one. A good start. If you can dig up six I'll be impressed.
I was exaggerating, it's not like I'm keeping count. But I'll still be impressed with 6 in the time I've been here.
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