The self is a lot larger than many people think. As I said, if it's in your self interest to help others, that's still your self-interest.
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Problem of good and evil for an atheist
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August 27, 2010 at 4:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2010 at 4:07 pm by The Omnissiunt One.)
(August 27, 2010 at 3:47 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: The self is a lot larger than many people think. Especially if you're a fat bastard in denial.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln  RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
August 28, 2010 at 4:56 am
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2010 at 5:15 am by Existentialist.)
(August 27, 2010 at 3:47 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: The self is a lot larger than many people think. As I said, if it's in your self interest to help others, that's still your self-interest. Does the self have any boundaries? Who would know the right answer? (August 27, 2010 at 2:59 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:(August 27, 2010 at 2:45 am)Existentialist Wrote: But where are the boundaries of the self?I would imagine that would be where the skin and hair ends on our bodies. That sounds a tad restricted to me, but would be ok if you lived in a coffin.  (August 28, 2010 at 4:56 am)Existentialist Wrote: That sounds a tad restricted to me, but would be ok if you lived in a coffin. Let me know as soon as I exist as myself in something other than a human body, because restricted or not, that seems to be about where the concept of 'self' ends, though the arguement could be made for just the human brain. ... but you know, I really don't like philosophy all that much. I'll give you an example of why, as my perspective on everything is apparently much like an engineer's: ![[Image: 20100512.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.smbc-comics.com%2Fcomics%2F20100512.gif)
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925 Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan  RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
August 28, 2010 at 7:37 pm
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From your picture, you look fairly slim, actually (assuming that's you). Even if you were fat, at least you wouldn't be in denial.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology. 'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain 'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
August 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm
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(August 29, 2010 at 4:28 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: From your picture, you look fairly slim, actually (assuming that's you). Even if you were fat, at least you wouldn't be in denial. Oh you mean in denial about being fat? No,I'm not,but I AM still about 25lbs overweight,at 5'10' and 165lbs. A few years ago I was up to 220. That probably contributed to me developing type 2 diabetes. My waist is 42". Healthy maximum for me is 36" Black is thinning.  
DarkestOfAngels, what site is that short comic strip from? It's awesome and I'd love to find more of that quality.
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I'm bored. Entertain me.  Religious Views: None, nothing, nada, naught, nil, zero, zip, zilch. RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
August 30, 2010 at 8:02 am
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(August 30, 2010 at 7:59 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: DarkestOfAngels, what site is that short comic strip from? It's awesome and I'd love to find more of that quality. Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal Also, my personal favorite: Jesus and Mo
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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August 30, 2010 at 3:36 pm
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(August 28, 2010 at 11:08 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Let me know as soon as I exist as myself in something other than a human body, because restricted or not, that seems to be about where the concept of 'self' ends, though the arguement could be made for just the human brain. ... but you know, I really don't like philosophy all that much. So, the self consists entirely of matter? |
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