(April 2, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Time to close the borders, Australia.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1975701/father-...BIVkTBc.99

Quote:Father Marries Off 12-Year-Old Daughter To 26-Year-Old Man, Encourages New ‘Husband’ To Have Sex With Her

Um no, time to deport that indivudual fucker. I agree religion is poison, but that is an idea, humans still have rights and in the civil west we don't automatically get to deport everyone just because. In the west secular law is supposed to presume innocence and protect diversity. 

Rights are still given in a pluralistic society. Claims by themselves do not deserve blind value.

Quote:Although he has been found guilty of the charges, surprisingly, he still stands behind his decision to marry his daughter off. He also justified his actions, by insisting that he’d done his daughter a favor. He felt his actions were quite noble because he made the decision in an effort to save his daughter from the potential sin of having sex outside of marriage, reports Telegraph.

So, just in case a fucking 12 year old would want to have sex, you made her marry a fully grown man and forced them to have sex. I'm sure Allah fucking approves.

To make deportation an automatic blanket solution is what our right wing does in America with Latinos. Humans still deserve to be treated as individuals first, just like atheists would want from theists.

Earth to fuckheads, your daughters are not your property. Sick bastards.

(April 2, 2015 at 3:01 pm)robvalue Wrote: Earth to fuckheads, your daughters are not your property. Sick bastards.

Yep any religion or culture that cant or wont allow girls/women to make their own life choices deserves nothing but scorn and contempt.

(April 2, 2015 at 2:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 2, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Time to close the borders, Australia.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1975701/father-...BIVkTBc.99

Um no, time to deport that indivudual fucker. I agree religion is poison, but that is an idea, humans still have rights and in the civil west we don't automatically get to deport everyone just because. In the west secular law is supposed to presume innocence and protect diversity. 

Rights are still given in a pluralistic society. Claims by themselves do not deserve blind value.



I disagree.   From the article:

Quote:The 26-year-old husband was recently found guilty of sexual abuse of a child. He is now serving a seven-year prison sentence. The father will also be sentenced in May. However, it has been reported that the local sheikh who performed the ceremony will not face charges.

The father and the "husband" should spend the rest of their lives in jail.  The "sheikh" should be deported.  And Australia should be more careful who it allows in.  Are you really suggesting that there is a human "right" to move to another country and act like a total cunt?  Where is such a law written?

(April 2, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(April 2, 2015 at 2:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Um no, time to deport that indivudual fucker. I agree religion is poison, but that is an idea, humans still have rights and in the civil west we don't automatically get to deport everyone just because. In the west secular law is supposed to presume innocence and protect diversity. 

Rights are still given in a pluralistic society. Claims by themselves do not deserve blind value.



I disagree.   From the article:



The father and the "husband" should spend the rest of their lives in jail.  The "sheikh" should be deported.  And Australia should be more careful who it allows in.  Are you really suggesting that there is a human "right" to move to another country and act like a total cunt?  Where is such a law written?

 
No where are you getting that from? In the west we have a presumption of innocence and not even expressing the idea of a crime depending can be viewed as an actual crime. 

For example I can say "I hate Islam" or "15 year olds should be allowed to drink" and even with music in the west we have had lots of songs that sing about underage sex. "Go Away little girl" ABBA "Does your mother know". None of those communications are actual crimes.

It cant simply be something vile you don't personally like. Crime is when you go beyond merely saying something and actually call for the crime to be committed or actually do it yourself. Ok, so if this individual you speak of did advocate a crime, fine deport that individual. But in the west we do not get to presume guilt before someone has actually done something, so if you are advocating throwing all Muslims out of your country because of what this guy did that is inhumane. Again, to me that would be assuming the guilt of every Latino because some might belong to a gang.

So again I ask, if your solution is a blanket one, get rid of everyone belonging to Islam, why stop of simply kicking them out because you know even from there they will still want to attack us, which they do. So the other option is a world war which would fuck your life up. And outside that pull a Hitler and kill them off like Jews.

Now I know you don't want to do that at all, so the only realistic thing is to treat humans as individuals first, welcome the individuals that do not commit crimes and only kick out the ones who do commit crimes.

Presumption of innocence relates to a crime.  Where is it written that any country must accept immigrants?  Especially immigrants who refuse to assimilate and want their new host country to adapt to their barbaric practices?


In other news.

In some countries, they call it "Spring."

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2015041...c5836.html

Quote:Taliban fighters swarmed over Afghan army posts in the country's northeast, killing at least 18 soldiers and beheading some in a major attack to mark the start of the country's summer fighting season, authorities said Monday.

Right.

Um.... good.


http://apnews.excite.com/article/2015041...3b7f5.html

Quote:Yemen's al-Qaida branch announced on Tuesday that its top cleric, a Saudi-national who has had a $5 million bounty on his head, has been killed, allegedly in a drone attack.

The 12 year old marriage thing is just an isolated incident, it in no way should be used to castigate all Muslims.

Now, if it had been a 12 year old in a Christer situation, ALL Christians everywhere and everywhen would have to be painted with the same brush.

And I am sure Obama agrees with me.