(April 10, 2015 at 5:16 pm)alpha female Wrote: Which would still be wrong.

Any number you put on it would also be wrong.

(April 10, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Sionnach Wrote:

(April 10, 2015 at 5:07 pm)alpha male Wrote: 16,000 years? 

He probably meant 1600 years.  

I meant 1600 i can't edit it now. 

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(April 10, 2015 at 5:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(April 10, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Sionnach Wrote: He probably meant 1600 years.  

Which would still be wrong.

Still though HJ if he had existed wouldn't care about you and or anyone really.
He was a normal guy he pissed people off and he got whipped and nailed to a bit of wood. 

Why Jesus didn't die for our sins ??

Well, for one thing, he didn't STAY FUCKING DEAD.


Geez, we are going to have to start putting directions on toilet paper if humans get any dumber.

(April 10, 2015 at 5:38 pm)dyresand Wrote: nailed to a bit of wood. 

I believe a scholar showed that there is no mention of a cross having been mentioned in the bible and that from the original Greek idiot theists have interpreted crucify to mean on a cross.  The Roman execution style was on a stake, not a cross.  

(April 10, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Sionnach Wrote:

(April 10, 2015 at 5:38 pm)dyresand Wrote: nailed to a bit of wood. 

I believe a scholar showed that there is no mention of a cross having been mentioned in the bible and that from the original Greek idiot theists have interpreted crucify to mean on a cross.  The Roman execution style was on a stake, not a cross.  

Oh my bad thanks i +kudos. 

(April 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm)dyresand Wrote: The whole dying for your sins things was added to the bible 16,000 years after jesus supposedly died.
What he did die for is this.

1. challenged the status quo  
2. he made people in power
3. He was a heretic 

All in all OT is still in the court so you better pick that ball up and drop the NT.

Paul discusses at length the role of Jesus' crucifixion in dealing with the sin problem in his letters, the authentic ones of which are near universally dated to the 50s by scholars (i.e. a couple of decades after Jesus death). Not sure where the 1600 comes from.


I would agree that he challenged the status quo, annoyed those in power, and his views would have appeared heretical to many.

So my question to you would be this...what do you think he was saying that got him on the wrong side of so many important people, and was bad enough to get him executed?


(I am quite happy to juggle both the NT and OT at the same time, rather than drop one. In fact I insist.)

(April 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm)dyresand Wrote: The whole dying for your sins things was added to the bible 16,000 years after jesus supposedly died.
What he did die for is this.

1. challenged the status quo  
2. he made people in power
3. He was a heretic 

All in all OT is still in the court so you better pick that ball up and drop the NT.

What are you talking about?

It was 2,000 years ago wasn't it?  You know, 4000 years after the earth was created because god was bored?

6,000 16,000 16,000,000... Doesn't matter.  The sacrifice of some random jew in a made up book doesn't dictate how my life will play out.

(April 12, 2015 at 11:38 am)Spooky Wrote: It was 2,000 years ago wasn't it?  You know, 4000 years after the earth was created because god was bored?

6,000 16,000 16,000,000... Doesn't matter.  The sacrifice of some random jew in a made up book doesn't dictate how my life will play out.

It already has.