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Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
#61
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 6:56 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: What two things?

1) The definition
2) The consequences of the definition
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#62
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 6:58 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: If you use words, but are defining them with your own personal alterations and amendments, then you are failing to communicate clearly.

EXISTENTIALISM = A philosophy which holds that reality exists independent of consciousness, that man has direct contact with reality through sense perception, that one can attain objective knowledge from perception through the process of concept formation and inductive and deductive logic, that the proper moral purpose of one's life is the pursuit of one's own happiness or rational self-interest, that the only social system consistent with this morality is full respect for individual rights, embodied in pure laissez faire capitalism...

“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#63
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 6:58 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: I'm saying that the definition of the word 'atheism' is what it is. Words have meaning for a reason. If you use words, but are defining them with your own personal alterations and amendments, then you are failing to communicate clearly.

So you're saying that we are all slaves to dictionaries, that the dictionaries we compile as a civilisation are our masters. I think the problem here is that I am communicating only too clearly, and you don't like what I'm saying.
(September 7, 2010 at 7:02 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(September 7, 2010 at 6:58 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: If you use words, but are defining them with your own personal alterations and amendments, then you are failing to communicate clearly.

EXISTENTIALISM = A philosophy which holds that reality exists independent of consciousness, that man has direct contact with reality through sense perception, that one can attain objective knowledge from perception through the process of concept formation and inductive and deductive logic, that the proper moral purpose of one's life is the pursuit of one's own happiness or rational self-interest, that the only social system consistent with this morality is full respect for individual rights, embodied in pure laissez faire capitalism...

Existentialism can't be reduced to a 3-line summary any more than atheism can!
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#64
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
MARXISM = An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the market rather than by central planning; profit is distributed to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#65
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 7:00 pm)Existentialist Wrote:
(September 7, 2010 at 6:56 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: What two things?

1) The definition
2) The consequences of the definition

What consequences?
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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#66
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 7:03 pm)Existentialist Wrote:
(September 7, 2010 at 6:58 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: I'm saying that the definition of the word 'atheism' is what it is. Words have meaning for a reason. If you use words, but are defining them with your own personal alterations and amendments, then you are failing to communicate clearly.

So you're saying that we are all slaves to dictionaries, that the dictionaries we compile as a civilisation are our masters. I think the problem here is that I am communicating only too clearly, and you don't like what I'm saying.

Nope. I'm saying that definitions are an important part of communication. If individuals are giving different, personal definitions to the words they are using to communicate with each other, the communications will break down into confusion.

I don't like what you're saying, because I thinks it's retarded... to be perfectly honest. But you define things any way you like. I've said what I have to say.
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RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
CHRISTIANITY = The philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, Christianity is presented in the form of existential Christianity which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral Christians assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Christianity can also take epistemological, metaphysical or ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible or that contrary to our belief, some aspect of reality does not exist as such.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#68
RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
(September 7, 2010 at 7:05 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:
(September 7, 2010 at 7:00 pm)Existentialist Wrote:
(September 7, 2010 at 6:56 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: What two things?

1) The definition
2) The consequences of the definition

What consequences?

Consequences for religion, consequences for organisational structures that are based on religion, consequences for authoritarian systems that draw on the fear induced by historical religious systems, consequences for marriage, families, adults, children, political consequences, economic consequences... you know, all the consequences!
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RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
CAT = Cats (superorder Selachimorpha) are a type of fish with a full cartilaginous skeleton and a highly streamlined body. The earliest known sharks date from more than 420 million years ago, before the time of the dinosaurs.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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RE: Is it true that atheism has killed more people then organized religion?...
Entropist, you've made your point, we don't need an encyclopedia here.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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