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(May 11, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Prince Wrote: Yes, I guess it was just a classical case of 'sleep paralysis', although it felt real, in a manner of speaking... Anyhow, my mind is clearer now.
It is pretty cool that you were able to examine and modify your stand based on new information.
I am very impressed that you can take what was a totally 'real' experience
and grant that it might have an explanation other than the one obvious to
your autobiographical self. I have no doubt that this thing you describe did happen to you. It's the interpretation that has to be brought up to date.
Congratulations, that ain't easy.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 9:15 am by pocaracas.
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(May 8, 2015 at 9:06 am)Prince Wrote:
The paranormal phenomenon I about to share is an actual event happen to me a while back, specifically in December 2011, hence I only revealed this experience to a few people, I haven't told my own family yet.
My life wasn't so perfect when i was young, My plans didn't go as I have hoped, My dreams were shattered into tiny pieces. I lost faith in God (Ex- Muslim), I mostly blamed my parents for what happen in my life, then I turned the table against God (Allah). I began to contemplate to God "why have you forsaken me?", "I deeply believed in you!".... I didn't receive any answers from 'Allah'. I took an oath not to pray again, not to fast again, not to worship 'Allah' again. I lost my religion.
At the age of 21, I considered myself an Atheist. I felt life had no meaning, and believing in God is irrational; I started having suicidal thoughts, everyNight, everyDay, I cry out in my slumber before i go to bed, One lonely night, I was a sleep, a spirit of the Lord visited my room, the Angel pinched my leg, then I immediately woke up from sleep, I abruptly opened my eyes and behold "I saw a 'Ghost, an Angel of the Lord". My first reaction was a total silence I couldn't scream or yell, I was 'calm as a cucumber'. 5 seconds, only 5 seconds all it took me to witness a beautiful Angel, whom was sent down from heaven by God.
I began to examine the evidence of what i saw was a truly an Angel, or was just a figment of my own imagination. My mission became clearer, to pursue the nature of the "Holy Ghost". Who was he? I mean the Angel didn't speak to me, he only wanted me to believe in him, that he exists!; honestly i was convinced, my faith in God was restored. But, i was still in doubt... is this the same God of Islam 'Allah' who heard my prayers, my weeping in my slumber. I have raised many set of questions that night.
Eventually, i came across the Bible (Gospel of Jesus). I began reading from book of John, then book of Matthew... after i realized that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and resurrected from the dead, then rose to heaven. Immediately my eyes started weeping, at the exact moment i felt the Holy Spirit inside me, It pierced through my heart, a peaceful shadowing touched my soul, I was reborn again by the will of God. My mind was in peace, for the prince of peace (Jesus Christ) is my Lord and savior... he is the savior of all humanity.
My research didn't stop there... later in my life I decided to read the Old Testament. I came across the Book of Daniel, in the book Chapter 10, Verses (5 -7); Prophet Daniel gives a vivid description of the same Angel I saw at that night. It was a truly an Angel, I mean how could this be? for i have disbelieved in God, but he never forsaken me!
Why would god send you an angel and not me or any other sane healthy person? Is it that god is not powerful enough to deal with more than one person? Come on, think this through.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 11, 2015 at 8:10 pm (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 9:15 am by pocaracas.
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(May 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(May 8, 2015 at 9:06 am)Prince Wrote:
The paranormal phenomenon I about to share is an actual event happen to me a while back, specifically in December 2011, hence I only revealed this experience to a few people, I haven't told my own family yet.
My life wasn't so perfect when i was young, My plans didn't go as I have hoped, My dreams were shattered into tiny pieces. I lost faith in God (Ex- Muslim), I mostly blamed my parents for what happen in my life, then I turned the table against God (Allah). I began to contemplate to God "why have you forsaken me?", "I deeply believed in you!".... I didn't receive any answers from 'Allah'. I took an oath not to pray again, not to fast again, not to worship 'Allah' again. I lost my religion.
At the age of 21, I considered myself an Atheist. I felt life had no meaning, and believing in God is irrational; I started having suicidal thoughts, everyNight, everyDay, I cry out in my slumber before i go to bed, One lonely night, I was a sleep, a spirit of the Lord visited my room, the Angel pinched my leg, then I immediately woke up from sleep, I abruptly opened my eyes and behold "I saw a 'Ghost, an Angel of the Lord". My first reaction was a total silence I couldn't scream or yell, I was 'calm as a cucumber'. 5 seconds, only 5 seconds all it took me to witness a beautiful Angel, whom was sent down from heaven by God.
I began to examine the evidence of what i saw was a truly an Angel, or was just a figment of my own imagination. My mission became clearer, to pursue the nature of the "Holy Ghost". Who was he? I mean the Angel didn't speak to me, he only wanted me to believe in him, that he exists!; honestly i was convinced, my faith in God was restored. But, i was still in doubt... is this the same God of Islam 'Allah' who heard my prayers, my weeping in my slumber. I have raised many set of questions that night.
Eventually, i came across the Bible (Gospel of Jesus). I began reading from book of John, then book of Matthew... after i realized that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and resurrected from the dead, then rose to heaven. Immediately my eyes started weeping, at the exact moment i felt the Holy Spirit inside me, It pierced through my heart, a peaceful shadowing touched my soul, I was reborn again by the will of God. My mind was in peace, for the prince of peace (Jesus Christ) is my Lord and savior... he is the savior of all humanity.
My research didn't stop there... later in my life I decided to read the Old Testament. I came across the Book of Daniel, in the book Chapter 10, Verses (5 -7); Prophet Daniel gives a vivid description of the same Angel I saw at that night. It was a truly an Angel, I mean how could this be? for i have disbelieved in God, but he never forsaken me!
Why would god send you an angel and not me or any other sane healthy person? Is it that god is not powerful enough to deal with more than one person? Come on, think this through.
Uh, we've kind of covered a lot of ground since the first page. Might wanna read through the thread
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm (This post was last modified: May 11, 2015 at 8:23 pm by dahrling.)
(May 11, 2015 at 5:56 pm)Prince Wrote:
(May 11, 2015 at 5:12 pm)robvalue Wrote: I have no doubt it felt very real! I'm very glad to hear you are getting your head around it now I'm happy you came here to share your story.
I am glad that I shared this story with you guys. I still got a bunch of crazy ideas for threads regarding religion and life experiences. I just want to get it out of my head and spread the word.
Recently, actually before joining AF.org. I was debating with theist on YouTube regarding Islam. I have started a crazy debate against Saudi Muslims, a whole week, I was receiving a hate messages & comments, threats of all kinds. They wanna torture me for criticizing Islam, and by exposing the true nature of their believe.
I have performed this YouTube experiment twice, one in English and the other in Arabic languages. I have received the same results everywhere, so i figured its time to join a well civilized society at AF.
I hope you're able to leave the Middle East soon. Unfortunately it is not a safe place for atheists.
AF, a civilized society? My goodness, in all your life you must never have left the Middle East.
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 12, 2015 at 1:13 am (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 1:14 am by robvalue.)
(May 11, 2015 at 7:23 pm)JuliaL Wrote:
(May 11, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Prince Wrote: Yes, I guess it was just a classical case of 'sleep paralysis', although it felt real, in a manner of speaking... Anyhow, my mind is clearer now.
It is pretty cool that you were able to examine and modify your stand based on new information.
I am very impressed that you can take what was a totally 'real' experience
and grant that it might have an explanation other than the one obvious to
your autobiographical self. I have no doubt that this thing you describe did happen to you. It's the interpretation that has to be brought up to date.
Congratulations, that ain't easy.
Spot on!
This is what "open minded" actually is, being willing to change your opinion in the face of new evidence/arguments. Some people who claim to be open minded actually just selectively believe certain things without being able to justify them, then criticise sceptics for not believing those same things.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 12, 2015 at 7:02 am (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 7:09 am by Prince.)
(May 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm)dahrling Wrote:
(May 11, 2015 at 5:56 pm)Prince Wrote: I am glad that I shared this story with you guys. I still got a bunch of crazy ideas for threads regarding religion and life experiences. I just want to get it out of my head and spread the word.
Recently, actually before joining AF.org. I was debating with theist on YouTube regarding Islam. I have started a crazy debate against Saudi Muslims, a whole week, I was receiving a hate messages & comments, threats of all kinds. They wanna torture me for criticizing Islam, and by exposing the true nature of their believe.
I have performed this YouTube experiment twice, one in English and the other in Arabic languages. I have received the same results everywhere, so i figured its time to join a well civilized society at AF.
I hope you're able to leave the Middle East soon. Unfortunately it is not a safe place for atheists.
AF, a civilized society? My goodness, in all your life you must never have left the Middle East.
At a young age, i have visited USA to Orlando (Disney World) & Dallas. I have been to Australia & NZ. That's all. I haven't left the Middle East since 2001... Fuckin Hell! I haven't left ME in 14 years. I wonder why my mind was so disoriented all those years.
(May 12, 2015 at 1:13 am)robvalue Wrote:
(May 11, 2015 at 7:23 pm)JuliaL Wrote: It is pretty cool that you were able to examine and modify your stand based on new information.
I am very impressed that you can take what was a totally 'real' experience
and grant that it might have an explanation other than the one obvious to
your autobiographical self. I have no doubt that this thing you describe did happen to you. It's the interpretation that has to be brought up to date.
Congratulations, that ain't easy.
Spot on!
This is what "open minded" actually is, being willing to change your opinion in the face of new evidence/arguments. Some people who claim to be open minded actually just selectively believe certain things without being able to justify them, then criticise sceptics for not believing those same things.
Well, that is why my signature clearly says:"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..." So, i could keep on looking for new evidences/arguments.
"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..."- Michael Stipe
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 12, 2015 at 7:11 am
Prince. Religion is the virus and you are the cure! Can you help others there? Or is it too dangerous!
If it's too dangerous and you don't trust them ...fuck 'em, leave! Come to Australia and we'll have a skinny frapaccino together!
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 12, 2015 at 7:33 am (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 7:37 am by Prince.)
(May 12, 2015 at 7:11 am)ignoramus Wrote: Prince. Religion is the virus and you are the cure! Can you help others there? Or is it too dangerous!
If it's too dangerous and you don't trust them ...fuck 'em, leave! Come to Australia and we'll have a skinny frapaccino together!
It's extremely difficult to help people around here. As they will turn against you and never look back.
I spent 1 year trying to convert my closest friend to Atheism in Jordan, in the year of 2012. We used to sit down every weekend at a Cafe smoking Hookah while discussing theology/ mind and God. So, he was a true Muslim, He doesn't want to give up his faith as if he did, he is afraid that he will suffer an eternal damnation. In 2013, he decided not to speak to me anymore because according to the Quran, he must not sit down with the unbelievers. After graduation, i moved to Dubai, in 2014... he sent me a message on Facebook saying: " Dude, I have became an Atheist, i was convinced that religion is bullshit", and its all because of you + after believing in the theory of evolution.
I tried to convert my little brother, but instead he became a pious Muslim. He now ignores me most of the times. Sometimes, he tend to fight me in the name Allah.
Sounds cool man, I love frapaccino
"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..."- Michael Stipe
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 12, 2015 at 8:00 am (This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 8:02 am by robvalue.)
Fear is a huge factor, it's probably religion's biggest weapon. The fact that anyone is scared of what "god" might do to them is clear evidence that they don't think really god is someone who cares about them. That's someone being scared of an overly harsh authority figure. I understand being scared of what other believers will do, I am very afraid of that! If I lived somewhere with extreme Islam I'd be shit scared. So I reckon there are probably loads of atheists who dare not say anything. They have realized god isn't a threat, but the zealots around them are. Again, the fact that people feel the need to violently force people to follow god shows god is not loving, and is in fact so weak that he needs us to do his dirty work.
All you can do is be there for people who are struggling, if you go after someone who isn't interested it's very unlikely to work. I've changed people's minds about issues at various times in my life, but it's almost always been because the person came to me with questions. They really wanted to think things through, and ask me why I have the position that I do. Maybe one day your brother will come around to wanting to talk to you about it. It's really sad his thinking is being stifled this way.
If Allah has a problem, let him sort it out himself. I'll call him a piece of crap fascist dictator every day until he comes personally to face me. Some maniac with a hatchet or a gun is not Allah doing anything.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.
I'm happy you came here to share your story.
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