Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach

[Wyrd of Gawd]

You made accusations about how the French and Americans treated German soldiers poorly that were captured.  Stimbo asked you how they treated German civilians.  As in how did the French and Americans treat German civilians that were captured.  The French and Americans left civilians alone.

Germans treated captured German Jews (civilians) as something to dispose of.  And did it in the most efficient method ever devised by humanity for eliminating humans.  And you bring up a bombing run of a city? Yeah, all countries involved in that war, that had the capability, took part in bombing runs on civilian populations.  Both the Axis and the Allies did this.

But if your defense for the slaughter of civilian German jews by Germany is some passing comment about German SOLDIERS being mistreated, then you aren't really winning the argument are you?

Soldier equals a male, of a certain level of maturity.  Civilians equaled women, babies, toddlers, etc.  These things are documented.  Children.  Pregnant women.  All victims of the Reich.  NOT soldiers that were POWs.

That's what flew over your head, retard.

I don't know why you are getting so worked up over this issue.  It's the same thing that happened in the biblical fairy tale when the God character told the Israelites to go forth, rape, pillage, and slaughter.  Except the Nazis didn't rape the baby virgins and make them marry them.  So that's a step up, right?  The Nazis were more moral than the Israelites, at least on that score.     

Maybe God told the Nazis to do what they did.  He does work in mysterious ways I've been told.  Now imagine everyone all together on Judgment Day after they've been resurrected and God tells them what a good job they all did following his commands to slaughter each other.      Remember, when Jesus returns everyone dies.  And since they were all religious their deaths added to the magic number that have to die before Jesus returns and kills everything.  So chill, and apply it to your Bible studies.

[Cato]

I don't know why you are getting so worked up over this issue.  It's the same thing that happened in the biblical fairy tale when the God character told the Israelites to go forth, rape, pillage, and slaughter.  Except the Nazis didn't rape the baby virgins and make them marry them.  So that's a step up, right?  The Nazis were more moral than the Israelites, at least on that score.     

Maybe God told the Nazis to do what they did.  He does work in mysterious ways I've been told.  Now imagine everyone all together on Judgment Day after they've been resurrected and God tells them what a good job they all did following his commands to slaughter each other.      Remember, when Jesus returns everyone dies.  And since they were all religious their deaths added to the magic number that have to die before Jesus returns and kills everything.  So chill, and apply it to your Bible studies.

Okay, how much is Randy paying you for the nuclear deflection?

(In fairness, despite severe disagreements with Randy on damn near everything I cannot associate Randy with this level of intellectual depravity.)

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I don't know why you are getting so worked up over this issue.  It's the same thing that happened in the biblical fairy tale when the God character told the Israelites to go forth, rape, pillage, and slaughter.  Except the Nazis didn't rape the baby virgins and make them marry them.  So that's a step up, right?  The Nazis were more moral than the Israelites, at least on that score.     

Maybe God told the Nazis to do what they did.  He does work in mysterious ways I've been told.  Now imagine everyone all together on Judgment Day after they've been resurrected and God tells them what a good job they all did following his commands to slaughter each other.      Remember, when Jesus returns everyone dies.  And since they were all religious their deaths added to the magic number that have to die before Jesus returns and kills everything.  So chill, and apply it to your Bible studies.

Okay, how much is Randy paying you for the nuclear deflection?

(In fairness, despite severe disagreements with Randy on damn near everything I cannot associate Randy with this level of intellectual depravity.)

The WWII events followed the biblical fairy tale scene for scene.  So if people believe in the Bible why would they get all bent out of shape over events that happened in WWII?  It was like a resurrection. Besides, if anyone actually suffered just remember that the more God loves you the more severe he beats you.  It's all biblical.  And look at what happened in real life.  The displaced Jews got a ton of sympathy which enabled them to flood into Palestine and steal it once more just like they did in the Old Testament.  They even stole Jerusalem again just like they did from the Jebusites.  It's just like the First Commandment from Exodus 34:10-16 all over.  So isn't that a real life example of a resurrection?  Or do you expect zombies?   

Randy might be on to something. 

Now don't forget about Zephaniah and how God swears that he's going to kill everything in the area including bugs, birds, and fish.  It'll be a real sight to see the resurrection he has planned after that.

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Longhorn]

Hey guys, remember what this thread used to be about? Yea, me neither ._.

[abaris]

Hey guys, remember what this thread used to be about? Yea, me neither ._.

Shit doesn't have that many aromas. So it really doesn't matter.

[Randy Carson]

And I bet Jesus loves him.

You're right about that, Min. Jesus loves you, too.

And the picture is an awesome reminder of the love and forgiveness that He offers all of us. Thanks for sharing it!

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[Jenny A]

You'll find my somewhat lengthy answer here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-34856.html

And you'll find my brief, but unassailable response here.

And following your link I found this:

FINAL ANSWER

God maintains a delicate balance between keeping His existence sufficiently evident so people will know he's there and yet hiding his presence enough so that people who want to choose to ignore Him can do so. This way, their choice of destiny is really free.

That is not a answer to ANYTHING whatsoever in my link. It's just a restatement of your original statement. And repeating it won't make it an answer. You ask for rebuttal, but you sure don't like it. You see it and then you hope it will go away if you just say I don't really want to discuss that.

That is how you manage to claim no one has rebutted your original OP argument. You just repeat the five facts and hope no one notices that that isn't a rebuttal.

[Randy Carson]

And you'll find my brief, but unassailable response here.

And following your link I found this:  

FINAL ANSWER

God maintains a delicate balance between keeping His existence sufficiently evident so people will know he's there and yet hiding his presence enough so that people who want to choose to ignore Him can do so. This way, their choice of destiny is really free.

That is not a answer to ANYTHING whatsoever in my link.  It's just a restatement of your original statement.   And repeating it won't make it an answer.  You ask for rebuttal, but you sure don't like it.  You see it and then you hope it will go away if you just say I don't really want to discuss that.

That is how you manage to claim no one has rebutted your original OP argument.  You just repeat the five facts and hope no one notices that that isn't a rebuttal.

I have now responded to that thread's OP at length here.