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The Paradox of Power....
#71
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 11:48 am)Believer21u Wrote:
(September 26, 2015 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Nobody will enter heaven because heaven doesn't exist.  It's a myth.

Does hell exist's the church and the bible teach's that it does.But suppose you say the bible is false then you will have,to prove me why the bible is wrong.

I have no interest in converting you to atheism as far as I'm concerned you can believe any stupid thing you like as long as it bothers no-one else. I am unconvinced by arguments/evidence for this thing you call god hence my atheism.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#72
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 10:17 am)Believer21u Wrote:
(September 26, 2015 at 10:01 am)mh.brewer Wrote: You are so sad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_In...eath_tolls


Quote: It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control.

This was not directly by the Vatican but through seal to combat heresy ,it was the Spanish Inquisition 
Whatever the church does,it will allow's be right.as its guided by the holy spirit.
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.Matthew 16:18 
the one holy catholic and apostolic church.Will last until the end of times.
Even more sad. Nice try though.

You said the church. Were not (pulled out from Wiki) [Alonso de Hojeda, a Dominican friar from Seville, Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Gonz%C3%A1lez_de_Mendoza][/url], Archbishop of Seville, and by the Segovian Dominican Tomas de Torquemada] part of the ruling power of the church? [ Pope Sixtus IV published the Papal bull, Exigit Sinceras Devotionis Affectus, through which he gave the monarchs exclusive authority to name the inquisitors in their kingdoms.] Oh wait, not Vatican? You say through "seal". Where did the "seal" come from? Sounds pretty Vatican to me. So the church didn't actually kill, they just sanctioned it. YEAH CHURCH and VATICAN!
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#73
The Paradox of Power....
This is an issue with the followers of God, they praise him for things man does. Someone had a successful surgery , they first thank God not the surgeon that used his learned skills and years of training and education to the surgery table...this is clear in how the people of North Korea see Kim Jung Un as a God. In a documentary where eye surgeons traveled to North Korea to provide patients with cataracts, the surgery to help them see agian , the first thing they do when they go could see is go to the picture of their supreme leader and thank him, WTF, this is the same hogwash shit from you God lovers, thank him for things that people do...
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.~Carl Sagan


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#74
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That band of child fuckers is on the way out in the western world and even a slick advertising con man like pope frankie isn't going to save their sorry asses.

Oh, and Ronny.  Make sure you turn the lights out when you leave.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/03/13/stron...low-in-us/

Quote:The percentage of U.S. Catholics who consider themselves “strong” members of the Roman Catholic Church has never been lower than it was in 2012, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of new data from the General Social Survey (GSS). About a quarter (27%) of American Catholics called themselves “strong” Catholics last year, down more than 15 points since the mid-1980s and among the lowest levels seen in the 38 years since strength of religious identity was first measured in the GSS, a long-running national survey carried out by the independent research organization NORC at the University of Chicago.





http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/10/...e-20130311


Quote:Roman Catholic Church feels Europe slipping from its hands
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#75
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#76
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm)Banks Wrote: This is an issue with the followers of God,  they praise him for things man does.  Someone had a successful surgery , they first thank God not the surgeon that used his learned skills and years of training and education to the surgery table...this is clear in how the people of North Korea see Kim Jung Un  as a God.  In a documentary where eye surgeons traveled to North Korea to provide patients with cataracts, the surgery to help them see agian , the first thing they do when they go could see is go to the picture of their supreme leader and thank him,  WTF,  this is the same hogwash shit from you God lovers, thank him for things that people do...

Kids being prayed over for healing have a much higher chance of survival when it's done at the hospital, than when it's done at home. Almost like the prayer isn't the important part.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#77
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 7:04 am)Believer21u Wrote: If christianty didn’t exist
1. No relationship with God
2. No Path to heaven
3. Don’t have a true aim and purpose in life
4. No inner Peace and Joy
5. No Reconcillation
6. No Forgiveness of sins
7. No Freedom
8. Don’t have a healthy body and mind
9. No knowledge,understanding and wisdom about God and Life

The problem is that without god (and we really are as there is none) there is no:

1. Relationship with god.
2. Path to Heaven.

But we do have a bunch of people proclaiming that they know god's will, and they are often at odds with each other and mean spirited to boot.  There's nothing more dangerous than a man who thinks he knows the will of god.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#78
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 11:25 am)Believer21u Wrote: Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.Galatians 6:7

For god to be scary, he must be believable.  I see no evidence of him therefore I'm not particularly worried about what is said of Galatians of him.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#79
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 2:51 am)ronedee Wrote: Great article! Explained in an intelligent, practical manner. The obvious truth here is that the world aspires to spiritualism, and God. But it also needs guidance.

You can see how powerful, and enduring Jesus' message is through Pope Francis. And that the measure of [real] power is the opposite of what men perceive it to be!

The so called "soft power" of: Humility, Faith and Love is an all positive force that always grows, and grows. While "temporal power" greedily, and continually grows and dies
over the millennia in a viscous never ending cycle riddled with evil, pain and suffering. Its easy to see why most people are drawn to the message of Peace, Hope and Love!

Nations will rise, and fall. But the Church of Christ endures!

For all the evil that men do for personal gain... on either side of the religious line, Jesus' message of truth is still loud & clear. And is very much desired by the masses.
And always will be! Or, for as long as the message remains the same.



The Paradox of Pope Francis's Power
It breaks Pope Francis's heart to see poor people. solution: Lock them all up so he won't have to see them.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#80
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Easier than giving them all public housing, so they don't have to sleep in the streets.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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