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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:25 am
(October 9, 2015 at 10:22 am)alpha male Wrote: By analogy, it's as if you were convicted of a crime, didn't ask the governor for a pardon, then complained that you're in jail just because you didn't get a pardon. No, you're in jail for the crime.
F*** the governor and his pardon! Where's my f***ing lawyer in this clumsy analogy of yours?
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Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:30 am
Drippy never had AIDS. He made that shit up to help him roll as a troll.
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:39 am
(October 9, 2015 at 11:22 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 11:20 am)Stimbo Wrote: I have, but apparently your god hasn't if your analogy is anything to go by.
How so? With age of accountability, the people in jail in the analogy are indeed there for their own crimes.
Because our 'crimes' are not asking for forgiveness for being born into 'original sin'. There is no age of accountability in this equation.
In fact, your analogy is worse than that. The sin for which we must petition forgiveness is supposed to be transgression against the governor of the prison. He takes the inmates - born, if you recall, in the prison - and tells them by proxy to beg him not to burn them, simply for being in there. Play the analogy game all you like, but don't pretend it represents anything even accidentally resembling justice.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:41 am
(October 9, 2015 at 11:39 am)Stimbo Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 11:22 am)alpha male Wrote: How so? With age of accountability, the people in jail in the analogy are indeed there for their own crimes.
Because our 'crimes' are not asking for forgiveness for being born into 'original sin'. There is no age of accountability in this equation.
In fact, your analogy is worse than that. The sin for which we must petition forgiveness is supposed to be transgression against the governor of the prison. He takes the inmates - born, if you recall, in the prison - and tells them by proxy to beg him not to burn them, simply for being in there. Play the analogy game all you like, but don't pretend it represents anything even accidentally resembling justice. ^^This.^^
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:41 am
(October 9, 2015 at 11:30 am)KUSA Wrote: Drippy never had AIDS. [...]
There's still time. We should not give up hope...
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 11:56 am
(October 9, 2015 at 11:30 am)KUSA Wrote: Drippy never had AIDS. He made that shit up to help him roll as a troll.
If that's the case, it really pisses me off. 
I'm literally leaving right this moment to drive an AIDS patient to a doctor's appointment, as part of volunteer work I do with the local AIDS charity organization.
I'll be back in a couple of hours, perhaps less.
Sick sonofabitch, if he used pretendending he has AIDS just to make a point.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 12:09 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 4:41 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 3:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: A being called yaweh loves us presumably "loves" us. And if we do not accept a his son/him dying we go to hell?
So.. he loves us... and he is willing to let us burn for eternity for not accepting someone dying... what the fuck. YES
if you think you're perfect then don't be scared of hell
Don't be scared of hell even if you're not perfect. If you trust that God loves you, then the least he could do is not ever have thought about you being in such a nightmarish place. Is God a loving father to you? How would he differ from an abusive parent if he has threatened you with hell at any point in time?
Give this some thinking before you answer. Don't rush.
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 12:15 pm
The subject line is actually the motto of alot of sexual orientation camps.
They have it on every banner in Latin. Seriously, look it up.
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Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 12:21 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 11:41 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 11:30 am)KUSA Wrote: Drippy never had AIDS. [...]
There's still time. We should not give up hope...
(Dear Satan - if you do this one thing for me, I'll swear my eternal allegiance to you...)
Ha ha fuck that's funny!
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RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 12:33 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 11:39 am)Stimbo Wrote: Because our 'crimes' are not asking for forgiveness for being born into 'original sin'. There is no age of accountability in this equation. Of course there is. Until the age of accountability, sin is covered. After that age is reached, everyone has their own sins to account for. You know that there are sins in the Bible other than "not asking for forgiveness," so this argument is a completely disingenuous attempt to save face.
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