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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 3:53 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 2:57 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Then those lines of reasoning you offered, Jenny, in support of your position (design/designer) are irrelevant. The fact that there are many species is explained by evolution, not by a design, not by a designer. Correct?
the fact that there are different species all on the same planet with different DNA indicates the existence of different biological blueprints . just like a human being has a blueprint that determines its development . ether you believe DNA just created itself and developed through evolution or it was created by an intelligent being and developed through evolution . intelligent design makes more sense to me and we know intelligent beings design things we do it all the time ourselves. an unthinking rock doesnt design anything complex right?
First off, "blueprint" is simply your way of insinuating your premise into your conclusion.
Secondly, while all genomes are different, the same five bases are used in the DNA of every loving thing on Earth.
Please read up on this.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm
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(October 29, 2015 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 2:57 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: the fact that there are different species all on the same planet with different DNA indicates the existence of different biological blueprints . just like a human being has a blueprint that determines its development . ether you believe DNA just created itself and developed through evolution or it was created by an intelligent being and developed through evolution . intelligent design makes more sense to me and we know intelligent beings design things we do it all the time ourselves. an unthinking rock doesnt design anything complex right?
First off, "blueprint" is simply your way of insinuating your premise into your conclusion.
Secondly, while all genomes are different, the same five bases are used in the DNA of every loving thing on Earth.
Please read up on this.
a pretty amazing feat for an unthinking explosion to create
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First off, "blueprint" is simply your way of insinuating your premise into your conclusion.
Secondly, while all genomes are different, the same five bases are used in the DNA of every loving thing on Earth.
Please read up on this.
a pretty amazing feat for an unthinking explosion to create
Apparently you don't understand evolution or BB theory, and so you're reduced to the Argument from Incredulity ... A/K/A argument from ignorance.
I'll pay you more attention when you merit it; until then, do educate yourself about what it is you're arguing.
I'm embarrassed for you, displaying your lack of education like this.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm
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You're back to this shit again? The BBT is not the explanation offered for DNA. That needs to sink in deeply Jenny. The explanation offered for DNA would not crumble -even- if you managed to demolish the BBT.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: a pretty amazing feat for an unthinking explosion to create
Apparently you don't understand evolution or BB theory, and so you're reduced to the Argument from Incredulity ... A/K/A argument from ignorance.
I'll pay you more attention when you merit it; until then, do educate yourself about what it is you're arguing.
I'm embarrassed for you, displaying your lack of education like this.
evolution and BB theory both indicate a complex intelligent design based on organization and not chaos ... when it comes to the universe i agree with Einstein 
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:40 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: evolution and BB theory both indicate a complex intelligent design based on organization and not chaos ... when it comes to the universe i agree with Einstein
What makes you think that an undesigned thing would just be pure chaos? We see plenty of things in reality that aren't designed but also aren't formless puddles of goo.
Also, would you fucking stop calling the big bang "an explosion," you're just making yourself look like a blustering fool with no idea what you're talking about.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:43 pm
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(October 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: evolution and BB theory both indicate a complex intelligent design based on organization and not chaos ... Not until you make it so, they don't. Make your case?
Quote:when it comes to the universe i agree with Einstein
Appealing to what, what you might see as a mutually amenable authority? Was Einstein a biologist? What's that, you say...no? Might I suggest you source your biology from a biologist?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:55 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: when it comes to the universe i agree with Einstein
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm
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(October 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Apparently you don't understand evolution or BB theory, and so you're reduced to the Argument from Incredulity ... A/K/A argument from ignorance.
I'll pay you more attention when you merit it; until then, do educate yourself about what it is you're arguing.
I'm embarrassed for you, displaying your lack of education like this.
evolution and BB theory both indicate a complex intelligent design based on organization and not chaos ... when it comes to the universe i agree with Einstein
Neither indicate ID, as I've already shown wrt evolution. Simply repeating your point is not the same as supporting it.
Simply because something is organized doesn't info at intelligent design. Crystals are organized molecules arising from blind chemical and physical processes; so are galactic spirals, volcanic cones, and the whirlpool in your toilet-bowl. Unless you wish to argue that your god is concerned about which way your turds swirl.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 4:59 pm
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(October 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First off, "blueprint" is simply your way of insinuating your premise into your conclusion.
Secondly, while all genomes are different, the same five bases are used in the DNA of every loving thing on Earth.
Please read up on this.
a pretty amazing feat for an unthinking explosion to create
How many unthinking "explosions" of the cosmological kind have you witnessed to be able to pronounce this one to be amazing by comparison? Surely your standard is an informed estimate of what cosmological "explosions" of the universe making kind ought to be like, not what fire crackers you've seen on forth of July is actually like?
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