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The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.

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The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
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RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 4, 2016 at 6:45 pm
If muslims are supposed to follow shari'ah why do they keep emigrating to non-muslim lands where they can't do it instead of going to muslim lands where they can?

Hell will be full of muslims.
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RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 4, 2016 at 6:47 pm (This post was last modified: February 4, 2016 at 6:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Ahm, I see, Mystic..now I see what's so interesting to you.  You have some text there that helps you determine whether you'll consider someone weak or a failure whenever they disagree with your silly little ghost stories.

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Fails the "why should we give a shit" test. What I still don't get is why you're looking for reasons, in the text, why people don't believe you. Why not just accept the reasons -they- give you, when you have those conversations?
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#13
RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 4, 2016 at 7:33 pm
I find that I'm having an extremely difficult time caring. Go figure.
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February 5, 2016 at 3:49 am (This post was last modified: February 5, 2016 at 3:49 am by robvalue.)
Surah 1 clearly states that it is Allah who decides whether or not we believe in him.

Take it up with him.
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RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 5, 2016 at 6:11 am
(February 4, 2016 at 6:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(February 4, 2016 at 6:22 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: What does it say about those of us who have read the message of the quran and found it out as the lying rubbish that it is?

I think for most, it comes under this:

Another interesting hadith, is seen as God forgives the heedlessness to reciting chapters as they are:

'Umar ibn Ishaq says: "Abu 'Abdillah (a.s.) was asked as to

what was the definition of the weak which has been mentioned by Allah. He said: 'He who does not properly recite any of the Qur'anic chapters, while Allah has created it in such a way that no one should fail to recite it properly.'" (Ma'ani'l-akhbar)

But that says nothing about those of us who have realised organised religion is a con game. :huh:
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RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 5, 2016 at 8:38 pm
(February 4, 2016 at 6:15 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It clears the common misconception that disbelievers = non-Muslims as in people who don't believe in the true religion.  It refers to those particularly who the proof has entered their hearts and they know the truth but reject it.

The Quran clarifies itself in this regard and the hadiths emphasize on this as well.
So you believe in a religion.  What does that do for you?  Why do you believe your religion's rules improve your life?  

BTW, who organized the Koran into chapters and numbered verses?
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RE: The concept of one without power to reject or a way to believe in the true religion.
February 6, 2016 at 4:15 am
God. Duh! Tongue

Not right away, of course. He was having a senior moment.
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