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Still struggling.
RE: Still struggling.
Oh yeah, in case you haven't heard it already, some theists try and imply that people like Dawkins are "atheist leaders" and that atheists all automatically agree with everything they say. Of course this is total nonsense. All such people are demonstrating is that they can't imagine anyone not being in a rigid, dogmatic hierarchy.
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RE: Still struggling.
Okay, I was playing a game and I got some RNG loot or whatever and jokingly/sarcastically I said "Alright god, make this one good." and I spun it and I got one of the rarest items in the entire game! I was blown away and I tried to reason it out saying its just chance but I couldn't and now my OCD is feeding off of it. I say its just chance and that if I didn't say that I would get the exact same thing but my OCD is just like "Nope bro thats god" and I can't stop doubting. I was debating on whether or not to post this because it sounds fucking ridiculous to me.
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(February 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was playing a game and I got some RNG loot or whatever and jokingly/sarcastically I said "Alright god, make this one good." and I spun it and I got one of the rarest items in the entire game! I was blown away and I tried to reason it out saying its just chance but I couldn't and now my OCD is feeding off of it. I say its just chance and that if I didn't say that I would get the exact same thing but my OCD is just like "Nope bro thats god" and I can't stop doubting. I was debating on whether or not to post this because it sounds fucking ridiculous to me.

Being a teenager you are likely going through the rebellious phase everyone goes through. God is going to do things to make you see the little things, and the dark forces of this world will do everything they can to get you to abandon God. There goal isn't to get you to believe in them, but only to abandon God, because once that happens, they have you. This is spiritual warfare. Remember your human body which you identify with now is just something your true self, your soul resides in for this experience on earth. The body will die, but you, which is a soul, lives forever. 

I'm sure your parents are praying for you as well. I remember reading a story of someone that died and was looking back at the earth, and saw beams of light like lasers coming out of the earth. He asked what that was, and was told by the guide that they are prayers. You are at a crossroads in your life, and you can either trust in what's on this earth through your five senses, or you can trust in your eternal life. Either choice you make, you will see the outcome when your body dies, and then reality is revealed.
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(February 13, 2016 at 3:13 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(February 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was playing a game and I got some RNG loot or whatever and jokingly/sarcastically I said "Alright god, make this one good." and I spun it and I got one of the rarest items in the entire game! I was blown away and I tried to reason it out saying its just chance but I couldn't and now my OCD is feeding off of it. I say its just chance and that if I didn't say that I would get the exact same thing but my OCD is just like "Nope bro thats god" and I can't stop doubting. I was debating on whether or not to post this because it sounds fucking ridiculous to me.

Being a teenager you are likely going through the rebellious phase everyone goes through. God is going to do things to make you see the little things, and the dark forces of this world will do everything they can to get you to abandon God. There goal isn't to get you to believe in them, but only to abandon God, because once that happens, they have you. This is spiritual warfare. Remember your human body which you identify with now is just something your true self, your soul resides in for this experience on earth. The body will die, but you, which is a soul, lives forever. 

I'm sure your parents are praying for you as well. I remember reading a story of someone that died and was looking back at the earth, and saw beams of light like lasers coming out of the earth. He asked what that was, and was told by the guide that they are prayers. You are at a crossroads in your life, and you can either trust in what's on this earth through your five senses, or you can trust in your eternal life. Either choice you make, you will see the outcome when your body dies, and then reality is revealed.

Fucking seriously, Mods, amusing as Scooby's doo-doo has been, don't you think it's time to start enforcing that rule on proselytizing? This truly is as low-down and dirty as it gets!
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(February 13, 2016 at 3:28 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Fucking seriously, Mods, amusing as Scooby's doo-doo has been, don't you think it's time to start enforcing that rule on proselytizing? This truly is as low-down and dirty as it gets!

What rule against proselytizing?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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(February 13, 2016 at 11:37 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(February 13, 2016 at 11:18 am)Evie Wrote: Kudos for recommending TGD.

Please understand it's not a holy book, it's just one man's observations which happen to coincide with those of many other atheists.

It's not a holy book? Really? I thought it was because I'm an absolute idiot.
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(February 13, 2016 at 3:13 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Being a teenager you are likely going through the rebellious phase everyone goes through. God is going to do things to make you see the little things, and the dark forces of this world will do everything they can to get you to abandon God. There goal isn't to get you to believe in them, but only to abandon God, because once that happens, they have you. This is spiritual warfare. Remember your human body which you identify with now is just something your true self, your soul resides in for this experience on earth. The body will die, but you, which is a soul, lives forever. 

I'm sure your parents are praying for you as well. I remember reading a story of someone that died and was looking back at the earth, and saw beams of light like lasers coming out of the earth. He asked what that was, and was told by the guide that they are prayers. You are at a crossroads in your life, and you can either trust in what's on this earth through your five senses, or you can trust in your eternal life. Either choice you make, you will see the outcome when your body dies, and then reality is revealed.

Dark forces? Seriously? Though given your belief in a conspiracies, out of body experiences etc., nothing should surprise me.----And here I was just sure you were a teen yourself.
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I strongly recommend that you ask yourself detailed questions about how the world works.

You will find that science has a detailed answer for virtually every phenomenon you can observe, and religion - whichever one you are trying to escape from - only has a vague one at best, but usually just a tactic for avoiding having to answer at all.
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RE: Still struggling.
(February 13, 2016 at 3:13 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(February 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was playing a game and I got some RNG loot or whatever and jokingly/sarcastically I said "Alright god, make this one good." and I spun it and I got one of the rarest items in the entire game! I was blown away and I tried to reason it out saying its just chance but I couldn't and now my OCD is feeding off of it. I say its just chance and that if I didn't say that I would get the exact same thing but my OCD is just like "Nope bro thats god" and I can't stop doubting. I was debating on whether or not to post this because it sounds fucking ridiculous to me.

Being a teenager you are likely going through the rebellious phase everyone goes through. God is going to do things to make you see the little things, and the dark forces of this world will do everything they can to get you to abandon God. There goal isn't to get you to believe in them, but only to abandon God, because once that happens, they have you. This is spiritual warfare. Remember your human body which you identify with now is just something your true self, your soul resides in for this experience on earth. The body will die, but you, which is a soul, lives forever. 

I'm sure your parents are praying for you as well. I remember reading a story of someone that died and was looking back at the earth, and saw beams of light like lasers coming out of the earth. He asked what that was, and was told by the guide that they are prayers. You are at a crossroads in your life, and you can either trust in what's on this earth through your five senses, or you can trust in your eternal life. Either choice you make, you will see the outcome when your body dies, and then reality is revealed.

And the bullshit parade continues.

Note the reliance on argument by assertion steeped in emotive language (you have a soul, it lives forever, spiritual warfare, dark forces).  There's no actual argument here.  And certainly nothing that has any kind of evidence attached to it.  It's the stereotypical vague threats that theists always employ when they see that someone is about to leave their cult and think for themselves.  "You're going to be lost forever!  And tortured!  And...uh...other bad stuff!"

For scooby's shit to even be remotely effective, they'll need to:

1. Prove we have a soul (without merely regurgitating the bible)
2. Prove that the soul is eternal (ditto)
3. Prove there's an afterlife (ditto)
4. Prove there are dark forces at work (ditto)
5. Prove that those dark forces are engaged in spiritual warfare (ditto)
6. Prove that NDE's aren't anything more than hallucinations caused by trauma, drug use, and/or other chemical imbalances and that the people telling the stories aren't liars

And I'm sure I'm missing a few.

This is theist scrambling 101.  It always follows the same pattern because it's designed to hammer at fear and guilt (by bringing your parents' feelings into it) fueled by doubt, which is irrational by definition.  The goal isn't to provide an argument for god, but to amplify your own fear and doubt and guilt to the point where leaving religion is too frightening to consider.  It is also, in my mind, a form of abuse, and it'd be really fucking nice if vultures like scooby would cut the shit out.
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(February 13, 2016 at 3:34 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(February 13, 2016 at 3:28 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Fucking seriously, Mods, amusing as Scooby's doo-doo has been, don't you think it's time to start enforcing that rule on proselytizing? This truly is as low-down and dirty as it gets!

What rule against proselytizing?

Okay - maybe you decided to dump that one, I was sure I saw one last time I checked. It's your site, do as you see fit. Still, I don't think such below-the-belt jabs which Scooby has been dealing to kids who are struggling to decide who they are under the oppressive condition of being forced to live with bigoted parents should be encouraged here - it doesn't get any lower than that!
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