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You think I like being told I'm going to Hell by my own parents and grandparents? The Bible is a pretty dangerous book too, and I don't think any Atheists here deny that. I laugh at the Jewish beliefs, especially since they don't have the whole: "Jesus came so we can ignore inconvenient parts of the Bible."
In regard to speaking out, I believe I deserve some credit for previously drawing attention to the Jewish sect that discourages women from driving, that Hamas was helped out by Mosaad in its early says, and for mentioning the Jew (who is apparently quite popular in Israel) who referred to Christians as "vampires". Mossad aided Hamas in order to weaken the secular Palestinians, who are more reasonable than they are. In other words, Israeli establishment are just as blinded by their hatred of Communism as the Americans. And now Hamas is a Frankenstein monster, rampaging around Gaza. How can anyone support such a vile organisation (besides Mossad of course)?
For the record, there are, at present, several Communists elected to the Palestinian legislature. So the Israelis didn't totally succeed. They wanted to have new ejections but they have been delayed because Hamas is scarred of a change in voting methodology, if I remember rightly.
And, also for the record, not all Jews are terrorists. Let's not have a double standard. Not all Jews want to see the Done of the Rock demolished.
I happen to think the West Bank has a lot into offer the world culturally. The illegal Israeli housing is saddening. But I'm sure Hillary Clinton, during her time as Secretary of State, told them to, as she did with the banksters:."to cut it out " (lol). So we should be fine (Hillary is so weak).
That aside, I do think that a Jewish state needs to exist because for centuries Jews that been treated as the Palestinians are today. It's very unfortunate that the Israelis abused the privilege and forget why Israel was created in the first place and treat the Palestinians as they do.
Israel is just another example of religion getting too crazy. But I ask you: Does Israel issue stoning as a punishment for any crime? When was the last time a New stoned someone to death? Israel's image abroad is already pretty bad so I doubt they'd want to add that to the list.
(February 19, 2016 at 8:48 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'd like to point out for the record that I was born in south Texas, so I'm kinda yanking my own chain, there.
But it was more fun to poke some fun at Thump, because I know he's good-natured like that.
The Arab/Israeli conflect is a battle, where Arabs got defeated, militias of humans identified as Zionist & Jewish, invaded the land of Palestine, and installed a religious government -claiming secularism-, and chose a religious symbol as the flag of the state.
Now, I have a deep question to atheists.
How does the west sleep at night, knowing that such lie is in practice?
Hey, nobody speaks about the Jewish militias that invaded other lands -under western support-, to achieve a mad religious interpretation, an interpretation that the so-called secular, non-religious world, is supporting.
Supporting to the degree, of considiring the Jewish state a red line that nobody can cross. I dare you: criticize them, so you may be called anti-semite and get thrown in jail until you pickle.
What's the difference, in ideology, between this Jewish state and ISIS?
How do we know, that ISIS is not a creation of this Jewish state; made to paint Arabs and Muslims with the filth existing in the Jewish Talmud ?
Quote:Torah[edit] The Jewish Torah (the first five books of the Hebrew Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) serves as a common religious reference for Judaism. Stoning is the method of execution mentioned most frequently in the Torah. (Murder is not mentioned as an offense punishable by stoning, but it seems that a member of the victim's family was allowed to kill the murderer; see Avenger of blood.) The crimes punishable by stoning were the following:
Enticing others to polytheism, Deuteronomy 13:7–11
Cursing God, Leviticus 24:10–16
Engaging in idolatry, Deuteronomy 17:2–7; or seducing others to do so, Deuteronomy 13:7–12
"Rebellion" against parents, after repeated warnings, Deuteronomy 21:18–21
Getting married as though a virgin, when not a virgin, Deuteronomy 22:13–21
Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman engaged to another man in a town, together, since she did not cry out (extramarital sex), Deuteronomy 22:23–24; both parties should be stoned
Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman engaged to another man in a field, forced, where no one could hear her cries and save her (rape), Deuteronomy 22:25–27; the man should be stoned
All blamed on Muslims, through ISIS.
Nobody wondered, how ISIS descends from the void, to do "certain things" that always, always, always, play in the interest of the Jewish state ?
ISIS, made every human hates the enemies of Israel: you got that right; now everybody hates Muslims. What an awesome favor they did for the Jewish state ! Ironically, they never fired a bullet towards them, their bullets are always directed at other Muslims.
Why the double standards?
Why criticize Islam so heavily, while ignoring a JEWISH NUCLEAR STATE ?
Here, something to keep you entertained:
You own the world, so nevermind
We are as agaibst the evils of judaism and islam as we are against the evils of chritianity. Personally, I am in favour of Palestinian statehood under the PLOs original aims of a modern secular state. But you have to remember it is religion that cause the current bloodbath in Israel, extremists on both sides using religious fairy stories in their quest to destroy anybody of a different religion.
(February 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm)abaris Wrote: The Balfour declaration saw the creation of two states in Palestine. There's no doubt that the first aggressors were the Arabs.
It doesn't defend what Israel did and is still doing during these last two decades. But it certainly puts things into perspective when it comes to the roots of the conflict. Also don't conflate Zionist with overall jewish. The Zionist movement was nationalist but left leaning, almost socialist in nature. It has nothing in common with the settlers of today or the religious nutters being part of the Israeli government.
I always wondered: are Arab crazy?
Why would they revolt, and attack -only- the Jews?
I have a problem with this historical narrative, because it is insulting to human intelligence, nobody revolts without a reason.
Quote:The events came shortly after the Battle of Tel Hai and the increasing pressure on Arab nationalists in Syria in the course of the Franco-Syrian War. Slogans used to incite the riots referenced Zionist immigration and previous confrontations around outlying Jewish villages in the Galilee
So we already know that things were okay for 1400 years, until Britain came and invaded what is not her's, and until Zionists began to move in to where they don't belong.
Quote:The British military administration of Palestine was criticized for withdrawing troops from inside Jerusalem and because it was slow to regain control.
Gotta love the British empire's choice of time.
Quote:In its wake, sheikhs of 82 villages round the city and Jaffa, claiming to represent 70% of the population, issued a document protesting the demonstrations against the Jews. This condemnation may have been procured with bribes
Bribes? LOL?
Conspiracy theories detected? new world order stuff?
Like, those filthy Arabs ! savages !! everything is a "lie", nobody is right, but that zionist jew who is allied with Britain !
damn !
Arabs !
Bribes !
Do you see them Arabs?
Savages!
Anyhow, judging from the faces, actions & lifestyles of the new Zionist immigrants, I got to admt: no wonder my kin revolted !
You know, blowing shit up is not a Muslim thing: it's a zionist thing that "begin" was so good at:
Quote:For several months in 1945–46, the Irgun’s activities were coordinated within the framework of the Hebrew Resistance Movement. Begin ordered the bombing of the British administrative and military headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem
So technically, this is what Arabs were dealing with.
A vampirastic, interest derived collapsing empire, and fanatic zionist Jews.
Exactly.
and the conclusion?
Let's give the terrorist a nobel prize !
Quote:This image was reinforced by international recognition which culminated with him being awarded, together with Sadat, theNobel Peace Prize in 1978
February 21, 2016 at 3:45 am (This post was last modified: February 21, 2016 at 3:54 am by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(February 19, 2016 at 3:09 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: You won't find too many atheists who are big fans of Israel. That said, The Arabs helped create this monster by trying to wipe them out when all they wanted was to be left alone.
Honestly, I wouldn't shed a tear if a large meteor wiped out the entire Middle East. I think the cultural loss would be worth removing what I see as a big set of mental chains that hold back the human race as it tries to grow up.
What cultural loss? <snark>
For all the culture which Muslims have continually been destroying since al-Ghazali, it wouldn't make much difference.
(February 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm)abaris Wrote: The Balfour declaration saw the creation of two states in Palestine. There's no doubt that the first aggressors were the Arabs.
It doesn't defend what Israel did and is still doing during these last two decades. But it certainly puts things into perspective when it comes to the roots of the conflict. Also don't conflate Zionist with overall jewish. The Zionist movement was nationalist but left leaning, almost socialist in nature. It has nothing in common with the settlers of today or the religious nutters being part of the Israeli government.
I always wondered: are Arab crazy?
Why would they revolt, and attack -only- the Jews?
I have a problem with this historical narrative, because it is insulting to human intelligence, nobody revolts without a reason.
Quote:The events came shortly after the Battle of Tel Hai and the increasing pressure on Arab nationalists in Syria in the course of the Franco-Syrian War. Slogans used to incite the riots referenced Zionist immigration and previous confrontations around outlying Jewish villages in the Galilee
So we already know that things were okay for 1400 years, until Britain came and invaded what is not her's, and until Zionists began to move in to where they don't belong.
Quote:The British military administration of Palestine was criticized for withdrawing troops from inside Jerusalem and because it was slow to regain control.
Gotta love the British empire's choice of time.
Quote:In its wake, sheikhs of 82 villages round the city and Jaffa, claiming to represent 70% of the population, issued a document protesting the demonstrations against the Jews. This condemnation may have been procured with bribes
Bribes? LOL?
Conspiracy theories detected? new world order stuff?
Like, those filthy Arabs ! savages !! everything is a "lie", nobody is right, but that zionist jew who is allied with Britain !
damn !
Arabs !
Bribes !
Do you see them Arabs?
Savages!
Anyhow, judging from the faces, actions & lifestyles of the new Zionist immigrants, I got to admt: no wonder my kin revolted !
You know, blowing shit up is not a Muslim thing: it's a zionist thing that "begin" was so good at:
Quote:For several months in 1945–46, the Irgun’s activities were coordinated within the framework of the Hebrew Resistance Movement. Begin ordered the bombing of the British administrative and military headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem
So technically, this is what Arabs were dealing with.
A vampirastic, interest derived collapsing empire, and fanatic zionist Jews.
Exactly.
and the conclusion?
Let's give the terrorist a nobel prize !
Quote:This image was reinforced by international recognition which culminated with him being awarded, together with Sadat, theNobel Peace Prize in 1978
Nevermind.
And this has... what to do with atheists? Are you ready to own up to poisoning the well? Are we meant to be the world police or something?
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