Religion hurts homosexuality but homosexuality kills religion?

[SteveII]

It's no doubt based on fear of those who are different, in the first instance.

Also, akin to the fear of nonconformity.  Religion only thrives, after all, when people believe without question.  That is why indoctrination of young minds is steadily becoming the only way to retain followers.

Where do you get that Christians believe without question? You are making quite a big asinine assertion there. The most you can say is that Christians follow doctrine derived from the Bible. You have no idea why each person does or the process they have gone through.

[Divinity]

Why do so many people's god give a fuck who has sex with whom, and under what circumstance?

Apparently the sin of killing someone, or raping someone, or committing genocide is equal to that of having sex with someone of the same gender. So let me ask this of the religious fucks out there: Why shouldn't gay people just go around killing people? I mean they're going to be sent to hell anyway, so they might as well commit a sin that's worth going to hell for. Might as well string up a few Christians and barbecue them. Why shouldn't they? You always ask this of Atheists. But I think the better question is asked to you. Why shouldn't they? Not why don't they, but why shouldn't they.

[robvalue]

It is incredibly insulting to any potential God to think he'd get so worked up about what consenting adults do in private.

[robvalue]

Egg, I said egg.

I should probably have been clearer about this, some people seem confused.

http://youtu.be/P8GC-7fWHww

[vorlon13]

Religions are going to have to soften their stance on this, or they'll steadily lose followers in my opinion. It seems each new generation is getting less homophobic and isn't going to put up with this crap.

It's no doubt based on fear of those who are different, in the first instance.

Most religions in the US have experienced a huge change in their level of acceptance of remarriage following divorce, and even remarriages following divorces, even with minor children involved just in my lifetime.

2011, the evangelicals/fundamentalists/literalists were right in Newt Gingrich's face during the lead up to the Iowa caucuses over his divorces and remarriages and his open and notorious adultery, apparently even cheating on his mistress(es) while married.

This election cycle we've seen an enormous sea change in the support for Trump, another multiple marriage/divorced open and notorious adulterer/philanderer coming straight from the Bible beaters, and nary a peep as to just what the fuck changed in their precious Bibles to allow temporary political concerns to supersede their concerns regarding Salvation, family values, corruption of community values, righteousness, public morality and the well being of children.

Softening their stance on marriage/divorce/remarriage, despite clear Scripture to the contrary is certainly an astonishing development, one might wonder if all the effort expended by the 'Christian' community starting with Bryant's Save the Children organization to battle homosexuals back in the 1970s would have been more productively spent strengthening their own families and marriages.  Jesus certainly addressed divorce and remarriage, equating it with adultery (of all things!) which is actually mentioned in the 10 Commandments.  Curiously,  'Christians' of today think they know better than Christ and are actually eager to soften His stance on these formerly important family issues.  I'm imagining some consternation when they're turned away from those Pearly Gates someday, that stance softening on Christs clear admonitions is going to cost them dearly.

[KevinM1]

The notion of sin is idiotic. Full stop.

[robvalue]

Totally. It's about time they put this all to bed, and started randomly hating another group of people who aren't hurting anyone. Jesus said so.

[drfuzzy]

Clarification. I am NOT going to debate this topic, but I thought you should understand the distinction...

In mainstream Christianity, being homosexual (physical attraction to same sex) is NOT the sin. It is acting on those impulses that would be the sin. Same as premarital sex, adultery, and every other sexual act outside of marriage.

The only difference is that premarital sex and adultery are HETEROSEXUAL sins, (according to the witch doctors).  If a heterosexual person wants to avoid sin, they just get married.  (And then they make sure that they aren't CAUGHT cheating, just like the preachers do.)  If a homosexual person wants to avoid sin, according to the witch doctors, they have to remain celibate for their entire life.  I have actually had a priest tell me that the other option was just to get married, like a normal woman.  When I told him that would mean a life of nightly rape, he just shrugged and said "you would get used to it, women have gotten used to it for hundreds of years".

[vorlon13]

Old people gambling at the casino?

Pandering politicians?

Mormons?

[robvalue]

Old people gambling at the casino?

Pandering politicians?

Mormons?

That's Hatewang!