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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:10 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 12:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I've noticed in your posts that you start in a normal voice and then get quite. What gives?
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Hoppingbunny Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 11:58 am)Alex K Wrote: Because Islam is demonstrably better and more true than Christianity.
What? All religion are equally untrue but I still believe some religions are less bad than others. For example, the Easter Bunny and half of what POTUS candidates say is equally untrue but the lies about the Easter Bunny are far from as damaging.
Well they are now, but that wasn't always the case. 800 years ago, the Germanic and Slavic tribes sacrificed humans for their fertility rites (as is still evidenced by the sacre du printemps by Stravinsky), and animals such as the easter bunny served as important fertility symbols in these societies. The belief in the easter bunny has merely become more benign over the centuries.
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 12:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I've noticed in your posts that you start in a normal voice and then get quite. What gives?
who me?
(April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Alex K Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Hoppingbunny Wrote: What? All religion are equally untrue but I still believe some religions are less bad than others. For example, the Easter Bunny and half of what POTUS candidates say is equally untrue but the lies about the Easter Bunny are far from as damaging.
Well they are now, but that wasn't always the case. 800 years ago, the Germanic and Slavic tribes sacrificed humans for the fertility rites, and animals such as the easter bunny served as important fertility symbols in these societies. The belief in the easter bunny has merely become more benign over the centuries.
Interesting I wasn't aware of the unp leasant history of the Easter Bunny
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:17 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Hoppingbunny Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 12:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I've noticed in your posts that you start in a normal voice and then get quite. What gives?
who me?
(April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Alex K Wrote: Well they are now, but that wasn't always the case. 800 years ago, the Germanic and Slavic tribes sacrificed humans for the fertility rites, and animals such as the easter bunny served as important fertility symbols in these societies. The belief in the easter bunny has merely become more benign over the centuries.
Interesting I wasn't aware of the unpleasant history of the Easter Bunny
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:21 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 12:17 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Hoppingbunny Wrote: who me?
Interesting I wasn't aware of the unpleasant history of the Easter Bunny
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:23 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 11:47 am)Hoppingbunny Wrote: Research any Pew polling on the opinions of Muslims. A huge amount of them support stoning for gays, death for those who leave Islam, support Jihad, support Sharia etc. Even in America, although U.S. Muslims are less bad than any other nation's Muslims are. At least Christianity gave up the Crusades and Inquisition long ago. And do you seriously believe that the Crusades were completely unprovoked by Muslims anyway?
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:36 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 11:47 am)Hoppingbunny Wrote: Research any Pew polling on the opinions of Muslims. A huge amount of them support stoning for gays, death for those who leave Islam, support Jihad, support Sharia law etc. Even in America, although U.S. Muslims are less bad than any other nation's Muslims are. At least Christianity gave up the Crusades and Inquisition long ago. And do you seriously believe that the Crusades were completely unprovoked by Muslims anyway?
1) It's a liberal trend to be accepting of Muslims and most people who label themselves atheist are liberal, which is pretty strange because of the amount of gay prejudice and sexual inequality in a lot of Islamic cultures.
2) It really isn't proven that it is the worst faith, but people of this faith maybe more numerous in cultures that are pretty bad in terms of sexual equality and treating all sexuality equal.
Muslim people in poorer countries have stuck to their faith more but that's expected because poorer countries have a trend of being more religious. But yeh I would say poor Muslims do behave slightly worse these days than their Muslim counterparts. Muslims often start drinking, having sex, shaving their beards after a couple of generations in western countries. In the UK where I live I know several Muslims who won't dare say they do anything against Islam the first time you talk to them or in front of other Muslims but when you get them on their own and you have a relaxed convo with them it's constant stories of when they were drunk, travelling to different cities to party so they won't get seen by family or family friends in their local city.
I'd say there's definitely a correlation between what you're talking about, but that doesn't necessarily indicate direct causation.
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 12:40 pm
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Islam is a tool, like all religions. In of itself, it's just a set of stupid ideas.
How dangerous it is just depends on how people are using it at a particular time, and how many. Christianity just happens to be mainly muzzled by secular law, and Islam less so. It also appears to be generally taught in such a way that is more hard line and less able to integrate. So Islam is currently running amok the most. But at its core, it's not significantly different to Christianity or Judaism. All three are represented by disgusting, brutal texts, which is unfortunate.
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 1:05 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 11:47 am)Hoppingbunny Wrote: Research any Pew poling on the opinions of Muslims. A huge amount of them support stoning for gays, death for those who leave Islam, support Jihad, support Sharia law etc. Even in America, although U.S. Muslims are less bad than any other nation's Muslims are. At least Christianity gave up the Crusades and Inquisition long ago. And do you seriously believe that the Crusades were completely unprovoked by Muslims anyway?
These are the kind of things that other Abrahamic religions have done, or are doing, wherever they have enough power. It's when they don't have that power that they are forced to be nicer, and more moderate. You even admit that muslims in America are less bad here than some place like Saudi Arabia. Why do you think that is, exactly?
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RE: Why do people on here act as if Islam if no worse than any other faith?
April 19, 2016 at 1:27 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 11:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: I disagree with the premise. Right now, islam is the worst. They are where the jesus freaks were 500 years ago.
It's not that Islam is the worst. It's that other religions are currently tethered by shorter leashes not of their own choosing. Don't think for a second many of them, Many strains of Christinity foremost amongst them, are not straining as hard as ever they can, seeking to break the leash and obtain for themselves for the freedom to surpass Islam in oppression, intolerance, and appeal to iron age primitivism and superstition.
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