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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:16 pm
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(June 17, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 8:04 pm)madog Wrote: I think anything conceived in our minds could exist, though almost certainly doesn't 
Not anything.
Something conceived through the mind that makes itself into actual existence, an architect designing a building, is one thing.
Something else conceived through the mind, clearly given the connotation of fiction because it has no place in reality, is something else entirely.
As I said I don't believe what follows, but would not discount it 100% ... a flying spaghetti monster may exist in another dimension, universe or time. We may be only capable of creating fiction that is, has been or could be? I don't consider it likely, but discount nothing 100%
If you think the flying spaghetti monster is beyond belief, try having the discussion about particles jumping in and out of existence with a medieval alchemist ....
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:18 pm
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(June 17, 2016 at 8:16 pm)madog Wrote: try having the discussion about particles jumping in and out of existence with a medieval alchemist ....
That one bolded word ensures I would win the argument.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 8:18 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 8:16 pm)madog Wrote: try having the discussion about particles jumping in and out of existence with a medieval alchemist ....
That one bolded word ensures I would win the argument.
Must admit I don't get it?
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm)madog Wrote: Must admit I don't get it?
You wouldn't.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:24 pm
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(June 17, 2016 at 8:16 pm)madog Wrote: As I said I don't believe what follows, but would not discount it 100% Your 99 and another's 100 are likely the same thing.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 8:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 8:16 pm)madog Wrote: As I said I don't believe what follows, but would not discount it 100% Your 99 and another's 100 are likely the same thing.
I have nothing to base a 100% assumption on, I don't even understand my own conscious, that's a pretty unstable position to be stating anything 100% .... Maybe there are those that know what our consciousness is, I doubt it but I'm not 100% certain ...
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:32 pm
I think you meant conscience.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:33 pm
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@ Madog
Those are the caveats to -any- knowledge claim that I was just talking about.
Quote:the fundamental limits to knowledge that make a person call something like the sun rising in the morning a "99.9999% certainty". The terminus of every brain in a vat discussion. Or, "what if there's something you don't know"?
All of that is included in my 100, which is your 99.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:35 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You've met people who claim that gods -can't- exist? The strong atheist position is that they don't, that the statement "at least one god exists" is false...not that they can't.
Do you recall why, by chance? Morbid curiosity, lol.
No, I don't remember the "reasoning" ... I've been online in atheist/free-thought circles for a couple of decades now, and it's lost in the haze of a fifty-year-old brain.
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RE: Shouldn't Atheists learn to accept religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:36 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I think you meant conscience Conscious : 1. aware of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings,etc.
No I did not mean Conscience
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