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US military lifts transgender ban
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: It baffles me that they took so long to legalise gay marriage. It's the year twenty fuckign sixteen but oh well it looks like this is how (un)progressive the world is.

Massachusetts legalised it in 2004, almost an entire decade before the UK.

Huh, didn't know that. That's interesting.
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#12
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Yeah several states had legalized it in one form or another long before it got to the supreme court.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:45 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Yeah several states had legalized it in one form or another long before it got to the supreme court.

I think it was over 30 states that had by the time it reached the Supreme Court. The tide was turning; I have no doubt that amount of states influenced the decision.
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Great news.

(June 30, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Yeah. I  think some people found it weird that my first reaction to the fantastically awesome news of the legalization of gay marriage was "WTF?! This hasn't already happened?!?!? Fucking hell."

You beat the USA by what, 3 years?  

Things are generally done here on a state-by-state basis.  The state I live in legalized it by public vote in 2012.  What took you guys so long?

No I thought the same thing about the U.K.

I actually like America more than the U.K. I'm a traitor to my country. America is my favorite country. I'm no patriot.

I wasn't taking a dig at America or anything. I am talking about the world in general "WTF world?! Why are you so late?!"

Furthermore:

I didn't even know we legalized it first Hehe
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I don't really identify as British... I identify as a person who was born in Britain by chance and can't afford to leave.
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: It baffles me that they took so long to legalise gay marriage. It's the year twenty fuckign sixteen but oh well it looks like this is how (un)progressive the world is.

Massachusetts legalised it in 2004, almost an entire decade before the UK.

Correct.  But it was not until the 2013 decision in United States v Windsor that the Defense of Marriage Act was struck down which had given other states cover to refuse to honor the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution in relation to marriage.

That is what sent the jesustards scrambling for other bullshit reasons to remain bigots.

And then in 2015 the Obergefell v. Hodges case ended the matter..... to all but the worst jesus freaks.
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Cue the god-is-going-to-smite-us assholes in  5....4.....3......2......1.....

The preachers are probably still praying for guidance but the FOX FUX are right on cue.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/fox-expe...-military/

Quote:Fox expert who called Obama a ‘total p*ssy’ says transgender soldiers are ‘disgraceful’ to military
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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(June 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Cue the god-is-going-to-smite-us assholes in  5....4.....3......2......1.....

The preachers are probably still praying for guidance but the FOX FUX are right on cue.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/fox-expe...-military/

Quote:Fox expert who called Obama a ‘total p*ssy’ says transgender soldiers are ‘disgraceful’ to military

I have something for that guy.


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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 2:45 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Yeah several states had legalized it in one form or another long before it got to the supreme court.

I can probably guess which states were resisting it before looking tbh. Typically the same offenders.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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RE: US military lifts transgender ban
(June 30, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote:
(June 30, 2016 at 2:45 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Yeah several states had legalized it in one form or another long before it got to the supreme court.

I can probably guess which states were resisting it before looking tbh. Typically the same offenders.

These were the states that were dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century as a result of the 2015 SC decision:

North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Missouri
Texas
Arkansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Alabama
Georgia
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ohio

(in a few of the above same-sex marriage was "legally complicated" and in others, the ban had been overturned but the decision stayed indefinitely.)

I'm guessing there are few surprises on that list.
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