Osama may be dead.

[everythingafter]

Death is no punishment, LastPoet thinks.

I tend to agree. Death was pretty much a reward for him, right?

[thesummerqueen]

Do we go to England and give them anything other than a little shit about the fact that they drive on the wrong side of the road? We don't make them conform. We're not a global village yet.

Further, for all intents and purposes, news outlets and history books for that country (typically in their own language) record the accurate date translated into whatever format that country prefers.

So when I was learning to read French, I didn't demand the French change to American dating format, I just remembered that among other things the French stated their dates differently. Which, being American, I figured was the least I could do.

September 11 happened on American soil. Too bad for the rest of the world if our numerical dating system for that particular event bothers them. They didn't get hit. If they experience something similar, we will take their correct date into account and either translate it into our format or call the event by whatever name they choose.

[Violet]

Death is no punishment, LastPoet thinks.

I tend to agree. Death was pretty much a reward for him, right?

Hide or death?

Better question:

Cake or death?

[Doubting Thomas]

So how quickly do you think the "Osama is still alive" or "already dead" conspiracy theory websites will go up, if not already? The fact that they quickly buried his body at sea and that this happened so soon after Obama released his birth certificate means that so many conspiracy nuts will be claiming that the story was just made up so that Obama could get reelected in 2012. And after all, why would the Muslim terrorist in the White House go after one of his own?

Never mind that if Obama were going to fake getting Osama, it would make more sense to do it in the weeks leading up to the election. But the true hallmark of a conspiracy theorist is to never believe what the government or news media say, and no major event ever just happens. There's always a sinister conspiracy behind it.

[thesummerqueen]

So how quickly do you think the "Osama is still alive" conspiracy theory websites will go up, if not already? The fact that they quickly buried his body at sea and that this happened so soon after Obama released his birth certificate means that so many conspiracy nuts will be claiming that the story was just made up so that Obama could get reelected in 2012.

Never mind that if Obama were going to fake getting Osama, it would make more sense to do it in the weeks leading up to the election. But the true hallmark of a conspiracy theorist is to never believe what the government or news media say, and no major event ever just happens. There's always a sinister conspiracy behind it.

The Skeptalk gang says they've already seen signs of it.

And I posted a link somewhere with the 2012 nutjobs asking if it was part of that whole deal (wtf?)

[Violet]

Do we go to England and give them anything other than a little shit about the fact that they drive on the wrong side of the road? We don't make them conform. We're not a global village yet.

It's moronic that they drive on the wrong side of the road, but a road system is a lot more established than a date system, so I'm quite prepared to let it go.

Further, for all intents and purposes, news outlets and history books for that country (typically in their own language) record the accurate date translated into whatever format that country prefers.

History book exists that calls the 11/9/2001 attack what it is (that is to say: 11/9/2001)? I don't believe you. Because history isn't about how we prefer things to happen. Or it is. But it's supposed to be something 'factual', especially 'modern' history that can be verified.

So when I was learning to read French, I didn't demand the French change to American dating format, I just remembered that among other things the French stated their dates differently. Which, being American, I figured was the least I could do.

French language: that is another stupid thing. Let's add fifteen useless vowels and 3 silent consonants to this sentence for absolutely no reason!

But it's hard to change a whole language. A moronic convention for presenting the date is really quite easy to change, though at this point it probably requires presidential action.

September 11 happened on American soil. Too bad for the rest of the world if our numerical dating system for that particular event bothers them. They didn't get hit. If they experience something similar, we will take their correct date into account and either translate it into our format or call the event by whatever name they choose.

Normandy invasion occurred on non-american soil... america calls it D-day because it was named as such until the day of the planned landing was actually known. That in itself is incredibly stupid. Whether a bunch of other nations also refer to that invasion in the 1940's as 'D-day' or not is a question of world stupidity.

It's still stupid. And getting hit by something means you deserve full rights to name it/state the facts behind it? I'll be sure to use that next time I get hit by a car. I'll call it 'Mishtufarlksa', and it was the other guy's fault.

[Doubting Thomas]

Oh and I will say that I bet the SEAL team member who put the bullet through Osama's brain will probably get free drinks, cigars, and pussy for the rest of his life.

[Violet]

Never mind that if Obama were going to fake getting Osama, it would make more sense to do it in the weeks leading up to the election. But the true hallmark of a conspiracy theorist is to never believe what the government or news media say, and no major event ever just happens. There's always a sinister conspiracy behind it.

Unless it was a 'natural disaster'... there probably was a 'sinister conspiracy' behind an event.

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Oh and I will say that I bet the SEAL team member who put the bullet through Osama's brain will probably get free drinks, cigars, and pussy for the rest of his life.

.... so standard retirement then?

[thesummerqueen]

It's moronic that they drive on the wrong side of the road, but a road system is a lot more established than a date system, so I'm quite prepared to let it go.

I'm totally not prepared to reprint books and remake everything else that uses a date that doesn't have the option already built into it to reflect a different date system unless it's absolutely necessary.

History book exists that calls the 11/9/2001 attack what it is (that is to say: 11/9/2001)? I don't believe you. Because history isn't about how we prefer things to happen. Or it is. But it's supposed to be something 'factual', especially 'modern' history that can be verified.

I'm not sure how translating a date format equates to "how we prefer things to happen" in history. It's a fucking date, and it's the "name" of the event "9/11" which people love to note as "9-1-1" that would stay the same. If they can't understand the date aspect of it, they can certainly understand that in the US, 9-1-1 is our emergency code.

But it's hard to change a whole language. A moronic convention for presenting the date is really quite easy to change, though at this point it probably requires presidential action.

Moronic is a matter of opinion. If I'm looking for something in a historical context, *I* would actually like the date to be first - filter things from biggest to smallest. What year? What month? What day. That's my opinion though.

Normandy invasion occurred on non-american soil... america calls it D-day because it was named as such until the day of the planned landing was actually known. That in itself is incredibly stupid. Whether a bunch of other nations also refer to that invasion in the 1940's as 'D-day' or not is a question of world stupidity.

Did the French or English come up with another name to call it?

It's still stupid. And getting hit by something means you deserve full rights to name it/state the facts behind it? I'll be sure to use that next time I get hit by a car. I'll call it 'Mishtufarlksa', and it was the other guy's fault.

I'm not sure how a date format changes the facts behind the event. It's a format. It's not a denial of what day it happened on.

If you get hit by a car and it makes the news, call it whatever you want.

[Rayaan]

The fact that they quickly buried his body at sea and that this happened so soon after Obama released his birth certificate means that so many conspiracy nuts will be claiming that the story was just made up so that Obama could get reelected in 2012. And after all, why would the Muslim terrorist in the White House go after one of his own?

But that's the question: Why would the US be in such a hurry to throw his dead body in the sea?

And did you say that a Muslim terrorist lives in the White House? O_O

Never mind that if Obama were going to fake getting Osama, it would make more sense to do it in the weeks leading up to the election. But the true hallmark of a conspiracy theorist is to never believe what the government or news media say, and no major event ever just happens. There's always a sinister conspiracy behind it.

I do believe what the government and news media say, but not always, because sometimes they do play a lot of tricks and propogandas. I think they are a master of misdirecting others.