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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 1:33 pm
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(May 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm)everythingafter Wrote: I tend to agree. Death was pretty much a reward for him, right?
If he really believed that, he would have strapped on a bomb himself ten years ago instead of hiding in a cave all that time.
(May 2, 2011 at 1:26 pm)Rayaan Wrote: But that's the question: Why would the US be in such a hurry to throw his dead body in the sea?
Is there a Muslim tradition that the body must be buried in 24 hours?
That and who wants to keep a decomposing body around?
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm
(May 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: And a chicken is a banana? Fact is that intersubjective things are identified by their name. If the name given is misleading: it needs to change. As it turns out, D-day and 9/11 are misleading.
No, they are not. The day, month, year are how the military writes dates.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 2:00 pm
(May 2, 2011 at 1:01 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (May 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm)everythingafter Wrote: (May 2, 2011 at 9:08 am)LastPoet Wrote: Death is no punishment, LastPoet thinks.
I tend to agree. Death was pretty much a reward for him, right?
Hide or death?
Better question:
Cake or death?
Cake, please.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm
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(May 2, 2011 at 11:51 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Okay, enough with the freaking 9/11. It is 11/9/01. Or 11/9/2001. Fuck. America's. M/D/Y nonsense.
I am so tired of seeing the date as '9th of november' when it was the 11th of september. So... so tired. America too stupid to wrap their mouths around 11/9? Too familiar with 9-1-1 from prank calls?
I facepalm at americans everytime they do that
That and them keeping the imperial system out of stubbornness hurting their trade with other countries
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 2:18 pm
(May 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm)Ashendant Wrote: That and them keeping the imperial system out of stubbornness hurting their trade with other countries
I recall seeing some road signs giving distances in miles and kilometers back when I was a kid. They disappeared pretty quick.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm
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(May 2, 2011 at 1:33 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Is there a Muslim tradition that the body must be buried in 24 hours?
Although a dead person should be buried as soon as possible, there's no 24-hour limit for the burial, as far as I know.
What are the Islamic Burial Traditions?
Secondly, the most common method is for the body to be buried deep under the soil (in a cemetery). Sea burials are rarely practiced, because this is done only if the person dies on a ship. So, it's clear that Osama bin Laden's burial was not done according to the Islamic manner as Obama claims it to be (edit: and I'm sure that it doesn't really matter to the US on how a terrorist gets buried).
See this for more info: Islamic scholars criticize bin Laden's sea burial
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm
It is allowed if there is a chance that the body might be desecrated where the body would be buried (I have been told this by a muslim at our company, who may or may not be right but it sounds plausible to me), and I'd say in the US there would be a real good chance of that.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm
And his body is more likely to be desecrated in the sea by them hungry sharks and fishes. 
It seems to me that the US government didn't want us to find out something about his body. That's why they quickly dumped in the sea so that there's no evidence of what really happened. But again, I'm not saying that is the actual reason for doing this. Just saying that this is a possibility.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm
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Well, his body will be desecrated by worms if buried in soil. I think dropping him in the sea is a good idea. Muslim's may not bury their dead at sea most of the time, but then most muslims are not at sea most of the time. I understand Muslims didn't do what the French navy did during the age of sail did, which was to stash the dead in the hold, packed in salt or in liquor, for burial on land. So hardly could it be said that drop a dead muslim over the side is not consistent with Muslim tradition under the circumstances.
Basically, dropping him over the side deprive muslims of the possibility of worshipping his grave as a shrine, while not appearing to go out of the way to desecrate his body. It's much the same as what was done to Nurenburg war crime convicts sentenced to death.
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RE: Osama may be dead.
May 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm
(May 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm)Chuck Wrote: Basically, dropping him over the side deprive muslims of the possibility of worshipping his grave as a shrine, while not appearing to go out of the way to desecrate his body. It's much the same as what was done to Nurenburg war crime convicts sentenced to death.
Well that makes a little more sense ...
But my point is that they should have at least taken pictures or let more people see the corpse to verify that this was actually Osama's body (before dumping it in the sea).
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