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How to end police shootings in one easy step.
RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:31 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I would also hope, that the cop was severely disciplined.

Disciplined? For something everyone else would get the book thrown at them?
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
It -was- an accident...until that inevitable point in which he manufactured a police report giving himself reason for shooting the man after letting him bleed out a little.  Then, it was criminal misconduct, falsifying a police report, and assault with a deadly weapon.

Except..ofc, he's a cop.

Get down-Good guy
Bang bang-still a good guy
I don't know-still...a good guy

...and then......
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:33 pm)abaris Wrote:
(July 21, 2016 at 12:31 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I would also hope, that the cop was severely disciplined.

Disciplined? For something everyone else would get the book thrown at them?

I would need to know more details, to say anything for certain, but I would agree to treating them like any other (if as I gathered, it was determined an accidental shooting).  About the only difference is they did have a reason to be there with weapons drawn.
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
IDK, I think we should hold the agents of state to a higher standard, like we pretend to....rather than no standard...like we actually do, or the same standard that we hold "any other" to..which obviously doesn't exist... judging by the number of black kids getting gunned down. The way that we discuss this sancrosanct issue of policing and the proper use of authority, sometimes...seems to be fantasy from the bottom to the top.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It -was- an accident...until that inevitable point in which he manufactured a police report giving himself reason for shooting the man after letting him bleed out a little.  Then, it was criminal misconduct, falsifying a police report, and assault with a deadly weapon.

Except..ofc, he's a cop.

Get down-Good guy
Bang bang-still a good guy
I don't know-still...a good guy

...and then......

Do you have information not in the reports given, or is this just your overactive imagination filling in the blanks???  A lot of my conversations with you are starting to make a lot more sense now.
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(July 21, 2016 at 12:33 pm)abaris Wrote: Disciplined? For something everyone else would get the book thrown at them?

I would need to know more details, to say anything for certain, but I would agree to treating them like any other (if as I gathered, it was determined an accidental shooting).  About the only difference is they did have a reason to be there with weapons drawn.

Did they? I beg to differ.
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Do you have information not in the reports given, or is this just your overactive imagination filling in the blanks???  A lot of my conversations with you are starting to make a lot more sense now.
The reports given by whom...the man who lay on the sidewalk, or the man who let him lay there after shooting him... while he came up with something for his report?

What do you think he was doing, checking his emails?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 12:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(July 21, 2016 at 12:38 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I would need to know more details, to say anything for certain, but I would agree to treating them like any other (if as I gathered, it was determined an accidental shooting).  About the only difference is they did have a reason to be there with weapons drawn.

Did they?  I beg to differ.

Given the initial 911 call mentioned in the report, I would say that they did.   As I said, I think that from the description, and what the guy said the cops response to the question of "why did you shoot me?"  that it was an accident.  That doesn't justify it, or mean that he shouldn't be brought up charges, but that it should be treated as an accidental shooting.  I would be curious to see the investigation report, and a follow up story.
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 1:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That doesn't justify it, or mean that he shouldn't be brought up charges, but that it should be treated as an accidental shooting.  I would be curious to see the investigation report, and a follow up story.

If he indeed doctored his report afterwards, it's no longer an accident but a felony. Under any circumstances.
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RE: How to end police shootings in one easy step.
(July 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm)abaris Wrote:
(July 21, 2016 at 1:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That doesn't justify it, or mean that he shouldn't be brought up charges, but that it should be treated as an accidental shooting.  I would be curious to see the investigation report, and a follow up story.

If he indeed doctored his report afterwards, it's no longer an accident but a felony. Under any circumstances.

Where did you get that from?
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