???? Is No one going to mention the nose dive clinton took at ground zero?

[RobertE]

Dirch, I have been one of Hilary's harshest critics and even I have to admit that she currently has no health problems that would exclude her from being president (this may change obviously). She lied about her health, sure, and that is what I was bemoaning. But here's the thing: All of these nonsensical right wing attacks make legitimate criticism of Hilary increasingly hard. People now think everything is a silly GOP attack and it's disheartening.

There's plenty of real scandals you can attack Hilary on, such as:

1. Putting a Clinton Foundation donor on an advisory board for tactical nuclear weapons.

2. All of the other pay to play revelations.

3. Not knowing what the different classification marks on e-mails meant.

4. Siphoning top secret government information to an unguarded homebrew server

5. Accepting money from criminals like al-Saud.

6. Selling weapons to South Sudan, a country known to use child soldiers.

7. Her support of a no-fly-zone over Syria, the same crazy thing people like Chris Christie proposed.

The list goes on and on. Please get informed on the real scandals the cable news hesitates to talk about. Coughing and falling alone, even lying, isn't enough to exclude. I think it could be fun to see Hilary elected simply so I can say to people "Ha! I told you so!"

Indeed, the list goes on and on. I can respect people who believe Clinton's policies would be better, even significantly better, than those of Trump. That is  why we hold elections. Even if Trump was the incompetent vulgar buffoon his opponents say he is (which I don't believe) I don't see how anyone can support and enable someone that clearly thinks she is above the law. One of the founding principles of America is that we are a country of laws and not leaders. A vote for Clinton is to disregard that basic principle of democratic governance.

(Bold is mine)

Her coughing and falling was simply an act to make people forget about the huge error she made in generalising nearly half of the American population. It couldn't have been timed worse. It was so obvious. As for a vote for Clinton, she only cares about herself and her legacy. Just like Trump, she doesn't give a flying fuck about the people she represents but only what goes inside her pocket.

[Aroura]

oh no she fainted. OMG! Panic!!!

It's not the crime; it's the cover-up.

Oh gee, what reason would they have to hide even minor health issues? It's not like there are people out there that will blow everything about her out of proportion to justify their own twisted agenda.
/sarcasm off

Don't lie. It isn't the cover up. You don't like her, and if was her health alone you would be making just as big a deal. As evidenced by the fact that this "controversy" is founded on her health and the supposed affect that has on her ability to be president, not on anyone hiding it or not.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Her coughing and falling was simply an act to make people forget about the huge error she made in generalising nearly half of the American population.

That seems a bit far-fetched to me. If she wanted to create a distraction she had many other options, like a fake Trump supporter heckling her with slurs, instead of making herself look frail.

[Whateverist]

But pandering to idiots is exactly what he is doing.  He calls them his base.

I was referring to Clinton supporters.   The one who is doing the pandering is Clinton. She is contradicting everything that she originally stood for. Trump maybe bent as a 9-bob note, he may be a moron, but he tells it like it is. Even if it means upsetting people, the truth just needs to come out. 

Do you really believe that?  He tells it the way the morons want to hear it.  They want to hear that complex problems have straightforward solutions which only require a clear head and determination to apply.  He might believe that too.  But it doesn't make it the 'truth'.  It is just a popular habit of a lazy mind.

[RobertE]

I was referring to Clinton supporters.   The one who is doing the pandering is Clinton. She is contradicting everything that she originally stood for. Trump maybe bent as a 9-bob note, he may be a moron, but he tells it like it is. Even if it means upsetting people, the truth just needs to come out. 

Do you really believe that?  He tells it the way the morons want to hear it.  They want to hear that complex problems have straightforward solutions which only require a clear head and determination to apply.  He might believe that too.  But it doesn't make it the 'truth'.  It is just a popular habit of a lazy mind.

And Clinton makes sure that her "morons", believe every single lie she comes out with. It tells you a great deal about those who vote either Trump or Clinton. Both sets of voters are doing this when they hear the true about their respective candidates:

[Jesster]

I won't say Clinton does not lie and is not corrupt (because I still think she is). I will drop these two links, though.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...y-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

[A Theist]

But pandering to idiots is exactly what he is doing. He calls them his base.

...and pandering to the gullible and simple minded is exactly what Hillary does. Those, too, she calls her base.

[Whateverist]

But pandering to idiots is exactly what he is doing.  He calls them his base.

...and pandering to the gullible and simple minded is exactly what Hillary does. Those, too, she calls her base.

Yeah, well I said it first.  So everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you like glue.  

[A Theist]

...and pandering to the gullible and simple minded is exactly what Hillary does. Those, too, she calls her base.

Yeah, well I said it first.  So everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you like glue.  

Oh yeah, I know I am but what are you?

[RobertE]

I won't say Clinton does not lie and is not corrupt (because I still think she is). I will drop these two links, though.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...y-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Perhaps most of that is ok. Especially the last one about the troops. We have had the same problem in the United Kingdom where the Ghurkas have been shafter not only by the conservative, but also by the labour (equivalent democrats.) For years they helped us in the wars, only to be told that they cannot live in the United Kingdom. Up pops a family of illegal immigrants with a sob story, don't speak English, 10 children with one more on the way, and they get a £1,000,000 house. Show me the injustice there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...house.html

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/49876/G...in-disgust

Left-wing and right-wing governments for you.