What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?

[Taylor]

I have way to many contradictions in the Bible, it would take me forever.
However, one of my tops is one of the first stories: Adam and Eve.

Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.

Genesis 1:20-21 and 26-27 Birds were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Birds were created after Adam.

Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Animals were created after Adam.

Genesis 1:26-27 Adam and Eve were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:21-22 Adam was created first, woman sometime later.

Anyone else thinking that the Bible might need an editior? Oh and if anyones interested this website has a whole heap of conradictions: http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions

There's a reason you see a contradiction, it's all you look for. The first chapter of Genesis is the order in which creation took place, the second chapter is giving some details of the creation in no certain order.

It is definatly not all I look for, GC. I dont go around looking for contradictions, they are in the Bible, and they are blantantly obvious.
Its like me saying that you only look for the 'good' in the Bible, which I assume you do. What about the genocide, killing of children and women, rape and many other hideous immoral acts that take place within the Bible?
And your statment dosn't really provide any consalation. It is still a conradiction, no matter what order you put it in.

[chatpilot]

Here is a link to a great debate on New Testament contradictions between Dr. Bart D. Erhman and Dr. Craig Evans

http://www.bartdehrman.com/flv_biblemisq...squote.htm

I hope you all enjoy this as much as I have. Oh and happy birthday Sae! It's my birthday today on June 1st I am now 42 years old.

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I generally agree with many of the things Bart Erhman has uncovered regarding the gospels. The only thing I don't agree on is about the question of the existence of Jesus as an historical figure. Erhman believes in a historical Jesus but does not accept that he was the son of God I on the other hand do not accept that Jesus ever existed and believe that he was a mythical figure.

[Godscreated]

I do not have to prove the scriptures correct to answer the question Min

Yes you do.

Failing to do so makes you look like a superstitious twit.

Your old brain is what's failing, do you really not understand what was asked?

[Cinjin]

My most favorite contradiction?

Easy.


God is Love ..................... God's going to burn you forever!

[Minimalist]

Your old brain is what's failing, do you really not understand what was asked?

Apparently not since I can easily see that your fucking bible is nothing but a pile of shit and you think its real, G-C.

Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

[tackattack]

@CC- Glad that's not a standard of normative Christian teaching.

[Cinjin]

@CC- Glad that's not a standard of normative Christian teaching.

Technically you're right. It's not. That exact phrasing does not exist in the Bible.

It's an overall general statement of how most of us on this forum have come to understand the Bible and the "merciful love of god."

You believe that we, the non-believers, are going to Hell, correct?

If you do than I'd say that makes my statement accurate ... fair at the very least. god loves you ... love him back or you're gonna burn.

[tackattack]

That would also explain while the majority are atheists and not theists then too hunh CC?
Since asked,
Yes I believe some of you are going to go to hell in the final judgement, not because you're not nice, but because you reject God. Some of you are truly open to the possibility, just waiting for a sign. Most aren't and no amount of personal revelation will get past your personal bias. It still doens't make your statement correct though.

My only problem with your statement was the burning forever part. Standard Doctrine I learned and teach is that a soul is destroyed in hell, therefore non existent, and not eternally burning.

[Cinjin]

That would also explain while the majority are atheists and not theists then too hunh CC?
Since asked,
Yes I believe some of you are going to go to hell in the final judgement, not because you're not nice, but because you reject God. Some of you are truly open to the possibility, just waiting for a sign. Most aren't and no amount of personal revelation will get past your personal bias. It still doens't make your statement correct though.

My only problem with your statement was the burning forever part. Standard Doctrine I learned and teach is that a soul is destroyed in hell, therefore non existent, and not eternally burning.

Ok. How do you account for the story of the rich man in hell who looks up to paradise and makes a request that someone dip their finger in water and touch it to his tongue because quote: "I am in torment"

(I do not recall chapter and verse, but I can locate it if you require)

My real point though is that the Bible does refer to Hell as being a lake of fire. Do you not consider these portions of the Bible to be accurate?

[tackattack]

No need it's Luke 16. I'll address your real point first then dole out the requested apologetics.
I do believe it is a lake of fire. Whether literal or figurative is immaterial, as if you threw something in a lake of fire, it would eventually be destroyed. That was my point.

Do you want me to treat it literally or figuratively, both are invalid. Me personally, I think that the grave (hell in your verse) being cast into a lake of fire on judgement day, would necessitate that hell and the lake of fire aren't even the same thing. Perhaps the grave, hell, hades, tartaros and gehenna are states of discard. Perhaps they're a holding pattern until the second ressurection and final judgement. Perhaps prior to Jesus being known, people are in a place atoning for their crimes or resting peacfully and since we just sleep. I don't know the answer personally but this verse is clearly parable as literally it would make no sense at all. here is a link to a site I peieced together a lesson about this very subject on. We all reached the same conclusion.