sexual orientation issue

[Chido-Wan Kenobi]

Yeah, well, take your #2 opinion, roll it up tightly and insert it into your rectal tract, FaithNoMore. And, by the way, "I could care less" (#5) actually means the opposite of what you think it does.

Actually, my answers were not meant to be taken seriously. I was actually trying to have a bit of fun with the subject but it seems you take this way too seriously. I'm sorry if you didn't enjoy my joking responses, but there's no need to mention my rectal tract, unless of course you are a doctor of proctology.

Methinks thou needs to get a sense of humor and stop taking what you read on the internet so literally.

Listen, I can take a joke as well as anyone. I found this particular comment disgustingly offensive, because of the negative stereotyping involved.
( a ) I was born in Mexico,
( b ) In my extensive experience all over that Country, I never perceived bestiality to be ignored, let alone tolerated or encouraged.
( c ) The odds are that there are at least as many bestiality enthusiasts in the U.S. as there are in Mexico (remember, Mexico has about a third of the population of the U.S., and it is also a more socially conservative Country), and
( d ) It shocked me, because I had assumed that participants in an Atheist forum would be among the least likely to harbor these kinds of xenophobic attitudes. How would you feel if somebody in this forum made a joke about "how greedy Jews are", or "how lazy are the Blacks" ? Are those also permissible "jokes"?

Perhaps I shouldn't have lashed out quite that hard, but surely you can see my point.

[Napoléon]

Listen, I can take a joke as well as anyone. I found this particular comment disgustingly offensive, because of the negative stereotyping involved.
( a ) I was born in Mexico,
( b ) In my extensive experience all over that Country, I never perceived bestiality to be ignored, let alone tolerated or encouraged.
( c ) The odds are that there are at least as many bestiality enthusiasts in the U.S. as there are in Mexico (remember, Mexico has about a third of the population of the U.S., and it is also a more socially conservative Country), and
( d ) It shocked me, because I had assumed that participants in an Atheist forum would be among the least likely to harbor these kinds of xenophobic attitudes. How would you feel if somebody in this forum made a joke about "how greedy Jews are", or "how lazy are the Blacks" ? Are those also permissible "jokes"?

Perhaps I shouldn't have lashed out quite that hard, but surely you can see my point.

You shouldn't take offense to anything said on this forum matey. I used to get miffed when I started out, but at the end of the day people can say whatever they like on here. Sure you can respond if you disagree, but don't take it personally.

[Autumnlicious]

Anyway, I guess for everyone applies this issue: if you know that tomorrow you'll die and the day after tomorrow 10 men will fuck you in the ass, you don't like the idea!

I am now going to parade your ignorance on display for the amusement of the children and scorn of the crowds.

If you are dead, you are dead. Doesn't matter if 10 or even a thousand men fuck your corpse in the ass -- you're dead. You're gonna be dissolved by fungi, eaten by small and large lifeforms or burned, etc,. Once you're dead, you're incapable of caring et al.

There we go. I hope I was gentle enough.

[Violet]

I see none dare challenge what I say on sexuality

Listen, I can take a joke as well as anyone. I found this particular comment disgustingly offensive, because of the negative stereotyping involved.

Can you take a joke as well as a Vulcan?

( a ) I was born in Mexico,

I was born in Paris. The french are still sissies.

( b ) In my extensive experience all over that Country, I never perceived bestiality to be ignored, let alone tolerated or encouraged.

And do you think niggas steal anything that isn't nailed down? No? Doesn't stop the racist humor being somewhat amusing.

( c ) The odds are that there are at least as many bestiality enthusiasts in the U.S. as there are in Mexico (remember, Mexico has about a third of the population of the U.S., and it is also a more socially conservative Country), and

The reason there are so many bestiality enthusiast in the U.S. is that they all came from the place Mexicans are great at leaving.

( d ) It shocked me, because I had assumed that participants in an Atheist forum would be among the least likely to harbor these kinds of xenophobic attitudes. How would you feel if somebody in this forum made a joke about "how greedy Jews are", or "how lazy are the Blacks" ? Are those also permissible "jokes"?

We aren't actually xenophobic. But I'd think a joke about the greedy jews is funny, and lazy blacks the same.

These are infact permissible jokes. You don't find them funny... that's fine. My grandmother doesn't find Dilbert funny. This is a matter of taste, nothing more.

Perhaps I shouldn't have lashed out quite that hard, but surely you can see my point.

I can see your point... what I can't see is why it matters to anyone but you

[Autumnlicious]

I've cracked almost every offensive joke under the sun. Yet I've been among the first people to rally for the rights of the minorities, individual rights.

Also, the "in Mexico" crack is excellent -- it is an economically backward, failed state with a culture that values its little hovels and gang affiliations more than they value having a decent quality of life.

From the perspective of a state, fuck 'em. And make jokes at it's expense.

Sometimes we mock failures for being.

[Faith No More]

Listen, I can take a joke as well as anyone. I found this particular comment disgustingly offensive, because of the negative stereotyping involved.
( a ) I was born in Mexico,
( b ) In my extensive experience all over that Country, I never perceived bestiality to be ignored, let alone tolerated or encouraged.
( c ) The odds are that there are at least as many bestiality enthusiasts in the U.S. as there are in Mexico (remember, Mexico has about a third of the population of the U.S., and it is also a more socially conservative Country), and
( d ) It shocked me, because I had assumed that participants in an Atheist forum would be among the least likely to harbor these kinds of xenophobic attitudes. How would you feel if somebody in this forum made a joke about "how greedy Jews are", or "how lazy are the Blacks" ? Are those also permissible "jokes"?

Perhaps I shouldn't have lashed out quite that hard, but surely you can see my point.

Listen, I get it. But it wasn't a generalization at all about Mexico or Mexican people, just a joke about the perceived notion about bestiality as entertainment there. Honestly, if someone else made stereotyping statements about Jews or blacks, my first impression would be that it was a joke. If they did it again, then I would think maybe they were racist.

I apologize if you took my poor attempt at comedy as xenophobic, but I suggest next time you see something offensive, engaging in a conversation about it to find out more about the person's true beliefs before telling them to stick something in their rectum. Personally, I think racial stereotypes are great fodder for comedy and nothing more.

[Zenith]

Anyway, I guess for everyone applies this issue: if you know that tomorrow you'll die and the day after tomorrow 10 men will fuck you in the ass, you don't like the idea!

I am now going to parade your ignorance on display for the amusement of the children and scorn of the crowds.

If you are dead, you are dead. Doesn't matter if 10 or even a thousand men fuck your corpse in the ass -- you're dead. You're gonna be dissolved by fungi, eaten by small and large lifeforms or burned, etc,. Once you're dead, you're incapable of caring et al.

There we go. I hope I was gentle enough.

I was serious. I know that after I'm dead, I'm dead. But still I don't like the idea that after I die, my body to be fucked by 10 people (neither by less, nor by more). And perhaps I'm not the only one who wouldn't like to know that such a thing would happen to his body right after he dies.

I don't see what you have seen ignorant about what I said.

[Violet]

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ok, now I'll say my own opinions about those subjects...

And I'll challenge them!

1. Incest
Totally disagree. However, I do not consider having sex with your cousin as "incest". But if it's about brother and sister, or father and daughter, or other similar combination, I do consider it "incest" and it is "yuuuuckk!!!"... or striking, the same as if you see an 8 years olf child sucking the dick of a 50 years old man (it's simply striking, you can't feel good seeing that). About the society: I'm not sure if there should be a law regarding it, but it should really not encourage it or preach everywhere that "it's ok", "do whatever you want" and stuff like that - because if the society says that, then it will help the number of people who practice incest to grow.

I can feel good seeing an 8 year old sucking the dick of a 50 year old man. I also can feel quite good about incest. It doesn't strike me in either the same direction or at the same level.

And why shouldn't the number of people who "practice incest" grow?

2. sex with animals
I would say "abomination", but that word usually makes me imagine something like this:
This above is a Warcraft "abomination" creature.
So I rather prefer saying "DISGUSTING!!!"
I've once seen a porn video on I don't know what porn site, and was watching how a big dog was fucking a woman (she was standing on her knees with her arms on the floor two). It was VERY disgusting (it turned my stomach upside down - perhaps this is a forced translation in english, but you understand), and I would never touch a woman who did that in my life. I'd look bad even to the dog (I mean... how do you see a dog that did that??). I think a man fucking a goat is less disgusting, but I don't know how a woman would have sex with such a man afterwards...

If there was a law that punished by prison people that did that, I wouldn't fight against that law. I don't know if I'd fight for such a law, the fact is that such things do happen anyway, and the most important thing is perhaps not to encourage it or for the society to talk as if "it's ok", "it's absolutely normal", etc.

Was that Luzran?

If it was 'very disgusting' then I imagine you saw either an ugly woman or an ugly dog or both.

It's called "showering" or "bathing". Same thing I require before I have sex with any man who's recently had sex with anyone else (or even me, depends on what was done).

3. sex with dead people (and perhaps, also with animals)
If it's about people, as long as they are not rotten, I guess it's pretty ok. though perhaps ridiculous and others can have a good time laughing of such a person. otherwise, yuuuckk!! (especially if they are animals)

It's not about people. It's about corpses. Which are inanimate as a steak, and couldn't care less what you do to them.

4. minor sex (e.g. 8 years old)
I totally disagree with minor sex, ESPECIALLY an adult having sex with a minor (the laws are currently pretty crappy, as it seems, because they make illegal the sex between an 18 years old guy and a 17 years old girl), but the fact is that an 8 years old boy should never have sex with an adult!
I believe the society must punish (usually, it does) such a thing.
As about sex between minors, that's also a bad thing. I'm not sure about the psychological effects, but I seriously don't believe it's normal or natural to do that at that age.

Never? I can see plenty of reasons for it. So much for a fact.

Why must society punish this?

How is it a bad thing if there are no adverse psychological effects to having sex at a young age? I daresay without someone sexually accepting me: I wouldn't be here at all right now. Not a bad thing at all, by my reckoning.

5. male homosexuality
I've once watched a porn video, at the thumbnail (or, how it's called, that small image that you get an idea what is about) I thought it's a woman sucking the dick while being fucked (that person was standing on knees and was also sustained by the hands). I started to watch the video, and I realized it was a man sucking the dick while being fucked in the ass. It turned by stomach upside down.

I don't know too much information about homosexuality (and here, by homosexuality I mean - as I talk about male men - to be attracted only by men, and therefore not to be attracted by a hot lady or have orgasm if you have sex with her - if a guy has sex with both male and female, he's not a homosexual, but a bisexual, and I can't understand that as "created so by the nature" or something).

Sounds to me like you've seen only part of *one* gay flick (incredible if you've spent much time on the internet at all)... I don't consider your distaste of it to be particularly secure.

There is a thing I don't understand about homosexuality however... that is, we're all capable of having sex with another male (think like this: if you do it, you'll receive $1000000, would you do it?), and perhaps most of us have at least once in their life felt attracted to another [male] man. Also, the first time I fell in 'love' with someone, it was a boy (well, I was 8 years old, and back then I didn't know about sex or even about kissing - but the fact was and it still is that the society where I live in do not regard such thing at all as something normal, so I also understood it as abnormal.). Anyway, the fact is that after some time I also started to like (or, love, whatever it was) a girl. The other interesting thing is that if you spend enough time (perhaps something like one or two years) only among men, and not women at all, you start to feel attracted to another male (or other males). The same happens in jail: male men stay together for years, with no women, and therefore they start to fuck each other. And if all women would suddenly disappear forever from the planet, 99%+ of men would turn homosexual. So I don't understand why or how the "homosexuals" (I talk about those males who never feel attracted by women) are more special than us. Is there a gay gene or something? I don't know, if a gay male says "I can't stop having sex with men" then 99% of the world population - that has started their sexual life - can't cease having sex as long as he/she lives, so I don't see a big difference.

This makes not one iota of sense to me... homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality. Both of them are misnomer groups created by people unable to come to terms with themselves.

female homosexuality
Female homosexuality... as long as the women are hot & young, it's ok. If there are two fat old ladies, yuuuuckk!!
Perhaps it's because I do get hot if I see two hot young ladies naked, so whatever they do, it's ok!!
(and yeah, I'm a male, if there is anybody who did not figure this out by now)

By the way, I've once seen a broadcast on TV, where a lesbian insisted how good and normal lesbianism is. The striking thing was that she brought as justifications the fact that "no man can understand me as a woman does" and that "as a woman, she knows where and how to produce me best sexual pleasure". I mean, if there are people that are homosexual (now, both men and women) because of these reasons, I think they should rather visit a psychologist or something!

It's true that most men can't understand her as well as many women can. But there will always be the special outliers.

And it is also true that women have an easier time understanding what they want than a man does what they want. Men can also understand men more easily than women can understand them. That isn't to say either is particularly complex (women are typically harder. Or softer, as it were).

The only reason to visit a psychologist is to get 2 little letters saying you are you. And stable, let's not forget that technicality. No need to fill up the psychologist with depression and especially not confusion... that's just getting in the way of the people who actually need to see them (the possibly insane, the transexual, the criminal, and a few others of similar severity).

7. prostitution and paid sex
I don't agree with paid sex. There are women who prostitute in order to have food for their children, but I'm not talking about this situation (and many women also ask for food instead of money, because the laws in the state currently forbid being paid, i.e. paid with money, for the sexual services).

I think that if paid sex was eliminated, then a lot of pimps would also disappear (and I also heard that women & lads that are kidnapped and forced for prostitution are used for things such as clubs, though I don't remember 100% correctly all the info). Also the money that we use to enrich so many porn stars could be used to help children that are starving, children in africa and in poor countries, etc.

Hold... do you watch porn? Paid sex. Almost all of it.

You cannot eliminate paid sex. Control substances... sure: most will deal with that. Get rid of a primary incentive for sex by women? Crime will skyrocket and any non-totalitarian government will fall.

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I was serious.

Why so serious?

I know that after I'm dead, I'm dead.

And then we shoot them with fireballs just to be sure.

But still I don't like the idea that after I die, my body to be fucked by 10 people (neither by less, nor by more).

He likes the idea.

And perhaps I'm not the only one who wouldn't like to know that such a thing would happen to his body right after he dies.

I'd be flattered that someone wants to waste their time fucking my platform when it dies.

I don't see what you have seen ignorant about what I said.

On the other hand, I do. You seem rather ignorant of how much you'd care about anything when you are dead.

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[Ashendant]

I'll give mechanical answers to that:

1.Avoid, has bad consequences.
2.Avoid, impossible to confirm consent.
3.Okay but disgusting, it's a dead body it can't give consent, but it's also not a living being so it would be same as illegalizing sex with a inanimate object.
4.Avoid, Too immature to understand the concept and consequences
5.Okay, Sexuality doesn't pick genders, it picks Chemical reward, the Breeding becomes non-issues to homosexual in the modern age.
6.Okay, Sexuality doesn't pick genders, it picks Chemical reward, the Breeding becomes non-issues to homosexual in the modern age.
7.Okay, Consentual only, requires weekly exams for STD tests.

Attempting to impose question number 8

8. What do you think about Asexuals?

[Violet]

8. What do you think about Asexuals?

Are fine. Unless they are sexy. Then they are an atrocity.