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I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
This is like a coffee shop that only serves decaf and twinkies!
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(December 5, 2016 at 6:37 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Dear readers and atheist colleagues of this thread of mine, what I now call my coffee-shop, what do you know?

I know a presuppositionalist when I see one.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(December 5, 2016 at 7:48 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 6:37 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Dear readers and atheist colleagues of this thread of mine, what I now call my coffee-shop, what do you know?

I know a presuppositionalist when I see one.


Huh, it seems a little more conversational now.  (Have had it on ignore for a while now.)

The way these literal religionists show up calling threads they start "mine" is kind of funny.  I'm not here for its amusement.  I'm here because I've thought up some new disrespect to heave in its direction for larks with the rest of us.  I don't really think of it as human somehow.  Maybe because it has never uttered a recognizably human remark?
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(October 24, 2016 at 5:27 am)Mariosep Wrote: This is my proof for God existing.

1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.

5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?
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Then sure, god, in concept, is the creator of the universe. So what? A unicorn is, in concept, a horse with a horn. Your "proof" not only fails to prove anything but it fails to tell us anything at all that we don't already know. What do I think of your proof? It's terrible and not very well thought out. If you're not a troll I'm honestly surprised at the level of stupidity you've displayed here on this forum.

English is very clearly not your first language and you've shown that time and time again. You are arrogant and you ignore everything everyone says to you while posting people's profile statistics and spouting off random nonsense that has nothing to do with what anyone actually says to you. I'm not even sure why this thread is still open and quite honestly I would love to see it closed so we can move on to more serious individuals that actually have a decent argument for their position.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.

It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.

Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll


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(December 5, 2016 at 5:15 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: For that matter, I suspect the neighbor's cat would be of greater assistance in helping me find my keys.

*pounce* *jingle jingle jingle*

I just got a product idea:  Key fob with a catnip mouse attached.  (Open source idea, but if you build it, please send Me a sample)
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You should watch this video.  It's at least as enlightening as anything else in this thread.




Have you ever noticed all the drug commercials on TV lately?  Why is it the side effects never include penile enlargement or super powers?
Side effects may include super powers or enlarged penis which may become permanent with continued use.  Stop taking Killatol immediately and consult your doctor if you experience penis enlargement of more than 3 inches, laser vision, superhuman strength, invulnerability, the ability to explode heads with your mind or time travel.  Killatoll is not for everyone, especially those who already have convertibles or vehicles of ridiculous size to supplement penis size.
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(December 5, 2016 at 11:50 pm)operator Wrote: bold by me

Then sure, god, in concept, is the creator of the universe. So what? A unicorn is, in concept, a horse with a horn. Your "proof" not only fails to prove anything but it fails to tell us anything at all that we don't already know. What do I think of your proof? It's terrible and not very well thought out. If you're not a troll I'm honestly surprised at the level of stupidity you've displayed here on this forum.

English is very clearly not your first language and you've shown that time and time again. You are arrogant and you ignore everything everyone says to you while posting people's profile statistics and spouting off random nonsense that has nothing to do with what anyone actually says to you. I'm not even sure why this thread is still open and quite honestly I would love to see it closed so we can move on to more serious individuals that actually have a decent argument for their position.


That is exactly why I bowed out of this thread when it was still under 100 pages.

He has been shown, by many people here, why his 'proof' fails on several levels, and he has failed to respond to a single one.

Intellectual dishonesty, language problems, or trolling. I don't care. Still a waste of time.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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(December 6, 2016 at 1:13 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: That is exactly why I bowed out of this thread when it was still under 100 pages.

He has been shown, by many people here, why his 'proof' fails on several levels, and he has failed to respond to  a single one.

Intellectual dishonesty, language problems, or trolling. I don't care. Still a waste of time.

That's why I'm now posting only silly things.  I like to feel like part of the conversation, I just don't want to actually be part of the particular nuttery going on in here.
Have you ever noticed all the drug commercials on TV lately?  Why is it the side effects never include penile enlargement or super powers?
Side effects may include super powers or enlarged penis which may become permanent with continued use.  Stop taking Killatol immediately and consult your doctor if you experience penis enlargement of more than 3 inches, laser vision, superhuman strength, invulnerability, the ability to explode heads with your mind or time travel.  Killatoll is not for everyone, especially those who already have convertibles or vehicles of ridiculous size to supplement penis size.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
Yesterday, 06:37
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Dear readers and atheist colleagues of this thread of mine, what I now call my coffee-shop, what do you know?

Here, let you know I am very happy that from yesterday’s morning to today’s morning I count 639 viewers or guests to my coffee-shop.

Yesterday’s morning: 21,987 viewers
Today’s morning: 22,626 viewers

22,626 – 21,987 = 639

So?

So, I am so happy that my coffee-shop is getting on so very well, and I thank the founders, owners, and operators of this forum for the privilege to have started and continued up to the present point in time operating my coffee-shop in their forum, though we belong to diametrically opposite sentiment, they being atheists and I a theist.

That is the great credit to the intellectual nobility of their heart and mind – can’t say the same of their comrades fellow atheists posting or visiting here my coffee-shop.

[...]


Good morning, everyone in my coffee-shop.

I have got good happy news for us all, whether atheists or theists or just visitors to my coffee-shop.

Here are the stats from yesterday's morning to today's morning:

Yesterday’s morning: 22,626 viewers
Today’s morning: 23,033 viewers

23,033 - 22,626 = 407 in 24 hours

407 ./. 24 = 16.96 viewers per hour

That's really good and happy news for Oh ye guests of my coffee-shop, be you atheists, theists, or just plain visitors, keen to read my thread here, courtesy of the founders, owners, and operators of Atheistforums.org.


Now, to business.

Dear atheist colleagues, as usual you complain that I do not attend to your posts, but how can I? As you are talking irrelevancies when not into raving mad foul language, insults on my person, and most horrible blasphemies on God.


I am asking you all, in particular of course Astreja to whom I made the request to produce evidence for her allegation of the concept of God, namely:

In an excerpt in her post #1057 Astreja Wrote:(1) A god that produces no unique matter/energy signal detectable by modern-day technology…


Oh ye atheists, I see your demand for evidence for my concept of God, as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, I see it the only reasonable objection, to wit, the demand for evidence, and I present to you the nose in our face and the babies we procreate, as evidence.

Now, from your part, Oh ye atheists, produce evidence to support the concept of God from Astreja, namely, that in (1) from her concept, she states that "[God is] A god that produces no unique matter/energy signal detectable by modern-day technology…"

Well, I am still waiting for evidence from her and also from you her fellow atheists here.


Now, dear readers here, this morning also I have now in-sighted into why atheists here are into raving mad foul language, insults on my person, and horrible blasphemies on God, instead of talking reason and intelligence to convince me that God does not exist, IT IS BECAUSE they ain't got no evidence and no argument whatsoever, considering that scientists have found that mankind is hard-wired so that God is neuro-psychologically embedded in every blood vessels of mankind's body and in every tissue of mankind's brain.

So atheists here unconsciously but truly ain't got nothing to bring up except - now listen or read carefully what follows from me: except to try by their kind of blasphemous and sacrilegious exorcism to take out God from their blood vessels and their brain tissues.

There, that is the evil inspiration of their raving mad foul language, their insults on my person, and their horrible blasphemies on God, it is their way but without any effect whatsoever, to exorcise God from their every blood vessel and every brain tissue.

Think about that, dear readers, and also dear atheist colleagues here.

And calling yourselves demonic names like Asmodee and Astreja, that ain't either going to exorcise God out of your blood vessels and train tissues either.


Anyway, please work on some genuine evidence to support Astreja's allegation, that God for her is "A god that produces no unique matter/energy signal detectable by modern-day technology…"

I shouldn't be mentioning here one way of exorcising God from your blood vessels and brain tissues, Oh ye atheists here, but God forgive me, here it is:


________________

Again, thanks to the nobility of the founders, owners, and operators of Atheistforums.org, for the privilege of my coffee-shop here in their forum. All hail to them!

And lest I forget, I must guard myself for I feel I am getting also angry, warning sign from my unconscious that the prevailing contagion of hate and spite from atheists here could be affecting me.


Again, tomorrow.
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