The problem with muslims...

[reverendjeremiah]

Where's the muslim outrage?

I have read some outrage from them, but it is not near as loud as it should. Their outrage often includes excuses for the muslims who did such deeds, or flat out lies (such as one Imam who claimed the 9/11 terrorists were not Muslim, but atheist).

Islam is something I dont want to be around. I also hear that if you join, like all other death cults, you are a member FOREVER. To leave it grants a fatwa on your head for public apostacy.

Sure, I dispise Christianity.. but Islam holds a special dark place in my mind. I can honestly say that when I think of what world religion is the number one WORST religion today, without contest the name "Islam" comes to mind..no contest..no contest.

[Epimethean]

Observing Islam is like finding the Astralopithecus of monotheism long after its slightly less brutish relatives settled down, farmed and decided they were the only "Ones."

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It's a total throwback.

[twocompulsive]

..how about the fact that the vast majority of Muslims who have moved from Arabic countries to Western countries flat out refuse to change.

Well doesn't that just go towards the fact that they are so divisive by nature? Muslims are the only group of people in the UK who are genuinely like this. I mean take sikhs for example. They are cool people, every sikh person I've ever met is down to earth and would seem like any other guy you could hope to meet in the UK. They don't live within their own communities, they live within OUR communities. They don't cut themselves off, or act any different to anyone else, they INTEGRATE with society. Muslims simply don't do this. I don't particularly have any problems with that but when it makes entire areas no go zones for white people, you feel like a foreigner in your own country at times. The only thing stopping them from being truly being part of this country is themselves. Frankly they deserve the reputation they have.

Like you I too am from Birmingham. I live in Sparkhill which as you know is a Muslim area - or to be more precise an area with a predominant Muslim population. Maybe it is because I have lived here all my life and therefore have no alternative frame of reference. But I am glad that I live here because growing up in this environment has made me more tolerant of other cultures. If I had been raised in an English / Christian neighbourhood I may not necessarily be so accepting of others. No Muslim has ever made me feel unwanted in my home city. I am more than happy to have lived amongst them and will continue to do so for the rest of my life. I am not saying that there are no problems with multiculturalism, but am just offering you my own perspective based on my personal experience.

[Epimethean]

Good night and good luck.

I would love to see the fuckers tumbled down along with the christians and jews. Their crusty old god is so past his "use by" date, it would be doing them a favor.

[Napoléon]

Like you I too am from Birmingham. I live in Sparkhill which as you know is a Muslim area - or to be more precise an area with a predominant Muslim population. Maybe it is because I have lived here all my life and therefore have no alternative frame of reference. But I am glad that I live here because growing up in this environment has made me more tolerant of other cultures. If I had been raised in an English / Christian neighbourhood I may not necessarily be so accepting of others. No Muslim has ever made me feel unwanted in my home city. I am more than happy to have lived amongst them and will continue to do so for the rest of my life. I am not saying that there are no problems with multiculturalism, but am just offering you my own perspective based on my personal experience.

I'm not doubting the majority of muslims aren't extremist crazed terrorists. The vast majority are just normal people. Their culture though, as I've said countless times, IS divisive. Seen as you have lived there from birth you are probably right and have no other frame of reference, just as I can't imagine living in such a muslim dominated area. Even you though must see the clear difference between the area you live in, and one which is not populated so highly by muslims? Or have you not ventured beyond Sparkhill?

[Faith No More]

One good thing about living in the U.S. is I will never see Islam become a predominant force and we'd rather commit suicide than let people use Sharia law.

[Napoléon]

One good thing about living in the U.S. is I will never see Islam become a predominant force and we'd rather commit suicide than let people use Sharia law.

I wouldn't be so sure of that with the rate which islam is spreading. It's like a virus, just because you're in a different continent doesn't mean it won't get you, it just needs a few people with weak immune systems and it will make its way across the pond don't you worry.

[Faith No More]

I wouldn't be so sure of that with the rate which islam is spreading. It's like a virus, just because you're in a different continent doesn't mean it won't get you, it just needs a few people with weak immune systems and it will make its way across the pond don't you worry.

Oh believe me there are enough intolerant people in this country to keep that from happening. Besides, Oklahoma has already passed a law making Sharia law illegal. Never underestimate American intolerance.

[Minimalist]

I know where that is. I volunteer with a dog rescue group and we've had a couple come up from there in the last couple of weeks.

[Judas BentHer]

I think many Muslims feel the way the linked article describes, as their personal identity is Muslim which precludes their being able to identify as a nationality, an professional in the field, or any other label that describes what they're about and what they do for a living. It's all born from being Muslim first, as if that faith is their central sun and all else in their personal reality revolves around it in varying proximity.

Much of that attitude is gleaned from the Koran. There's an interesting take on the matter found here.

However, in fairness, I think the same can be said for any who consider themselves fundamentalist members of a faith. God first, all else second. Because they accept all they are and all that shall come to pass emanates from being innately bound to the spirit they believe orchestrates their mortal destiny.