Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border

[Jackalope]

You're right.  They can fucking starve, amirite?

I didn't say that. Are you suggesting that your country should just open its borders completely and take in everyone?

Of course not.

Again, the issue I was addressing was *who* is allowed to come in legally. Our immigration system is fucking broken in many ways, and simply saying herp derp let's throw out all of the illegals is 1) unreasonable, 2) uncompassionate, and 3) it will fuck our economy into the dirt.

Trump's "solutions" are fucking stupid, given the specific nature of the USA's problem.

[Jackalope]

You're right.  They can fucking starve, amirite?

They can always eat each other.

Go troll someplace else, idiot.

[Amarok]

So they're going to raise the price of everything from Mexico by 20%.  Yeah, I can't see that revenue stream drying up.  What an asshole.

That's the idea.  Their money has already taken a nosedive.  If they won't pay then they will suffer the consequences.

In other words increasing the very cause of the problem there trying to solve

an punishing Americans while doing it

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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I've learned that most conservatives will claim to care about people--but they really don't. They only care about themselves. It's the only thing they care about--except money, and they care about that too. So long as they've got theirs, it doesn't matter who else suffers. This is obvious from the way they are against gay marriage, against universal health care, against public education... the list goes on and on and on.

If it were you and your family in their positions... I wonder what you'd do. Would you be a good law abiding citizen and wait 10-15 years to hear back, all while you're struggling to feed your family? If you would, then I have to question how much of a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' type of person you really are.

The wall is an idiotic idea that is supported by nothing more than a bunch of overgrown man-childs. A wall isn't going to reduce illegal immigration. It's going to be a costly effort that will be paid for by American citizens. And then even when it's finished, there's going to be maintenance on the wall which will also be costly. This is ignoring already the environmental issues, the issues of land rights, etc... And on top of it all, it's not going to accomplish anything. It's nothing more than a symbol for xenophobes to rally around. "“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" I guess that doesn't apply anymore. Maybe we should give the statue of Liberty back to the French.

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Apparently we have all the money you could ever hope for to start wars and build walls. But education? health care? Get out of here! We've got walls to build.

Here's a great education problem: design an impenetrable barrier that will span the US/Mexico border, and calculate the material, manpower, time and cost to get it built within 360 days.

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They can always eat each other.

Go troll someplace else, idiot.

I guess you missed the news about the prisoners who barbecued other prisoners in those mudholes. So why in the hell would we want any of those people to flood into our country?

The only idiots are people who want them here.

[Amarok]

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I've learned that most conservatives will claim to care about people--but they really don't.  They only care about themselves.  It's the only thing they care about--except money, and they care about that too.  So long as they've got theirs, it doesn't matter who else suffers.  This is obvious from the way they are against gay marriage, against universal health care, against public education... the list goes on and on and on.  

If it were you and your family in their positions... I wonder what you'd do.  Would you be a good law abiding citizen and wait 10-15 years to hear back, all while you're struggling to feed your family?  If you would, then I have to question how much of a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' type of person you really are.

The wall is an idiotic idea that is supported by nothing more than a bunch of overgrown man-childs.  A wall isn't going to reduce illegal immigration.  It's going to be a costly effort that will be paid for by American citizens.  And then even when it's finished, there's going to be maintenance on the wall which will also be costly.   This is ignoring already the environmental issues, the issues of land rights, etc...   And on top of it all, it's not going to accomplish anything.  It's nothing more than a symbol for xenophobes to rally around.  "“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" I guess that doesn't apply anymore.  Maybe we should give the statue of Liberty back to the French.  

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Apparently we have all the money you could ever hope for to start wars and build walls.  But education?  health care?  Get out of here!  We've got walls to build.

Here's a great education problem:  design an impenetrable barrier that will span the US/Mexico border, and calculate the material, manpower, time and cost to get it built within 360 days.

Or instead don't by realizing the goal of project is stupid and pursue a valid project

[Anomalocaris]

Round up trump voters like you, march them to the US Mexico border, shot them, line up their corpses on the border line head to foot, will cost less than $15 billion, and will likely be very effective in discouraging Mexicans from wanting to come here ever again.

[Iroscato]

They can always eat each other.

Oh yeah that's just what Mexico needs Cannibals

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So we can take better care of them than they can  take care of themselves?  What's in it for us?

I really hope this is  sarcasm

It's Wyrd of Gawd. It's never sarcasm.

[Catholic_Lady]

By "we" I mean my parents and siblings,

And your parents were what?  Doctors? 

My husband's parents are doctors, not mine. My dad is an engineer and my mom a stay at home mom.

My one aunt (divorced) was a secretary. 

My other aunt (married) was a stay at home mom. I think her husband is an accountant.

My grandparents were retired.

We all came here legally in the 90's.

[Anomalocaris]

Just as gawd would have Mexicans be food for other Mexicans, I want gawd's corpse to become one brick in the wall he loves so much.

[Catholic_Lady]

Well then dont be here illegally lol. There's a legal way to do it.

How about if you're poor or uneducated.  How many legal avenues do they have?

As I said several times, if you're getting turned down simply for being poor/uneducated, then that's something that needs to be fixed.